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Plane Down In Teterboro  
User currently offlinePanaman From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 439 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9592 times:

I do not have much info on it all I know is some sort of plane has crashed at 560 Huyler St. Which is at or near Teterboro, Airport. 1 DOA at least 2 others in serious condition, headed to local hospitals.


Sorry I moved from SXM, looking for a new house on Anguilla now!
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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3830 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9480 times:

again!?


.. seems like this airport isnt safe


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9436 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 1):

.. seems like this airport isnt safe

Was it a landing accident?

Was it a takeoff accident?

Was it an equipment malfunction?

Was it pilot error?

Until even some rudimentary facts are known, how can anyone conclude anything, especially the the airport is "unsafe:?  Yeah sure


User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2925 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9395 times:

any link to news ???


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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9348 times:
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SOUTH HACKENSACK, N.J. - A small plane struck a post office building near Teterboro Airport late Friday and crashed in a marshy area after the pilot radioed that he was having engine trouble.

Arlene Murray, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, said the single-engine plane was diverted to Teterboro after the pilot reported an engine problem. She said the plane came to rest in a marshy area after striking the building.


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...03/ap_on_re_us/small_plane_crash_1



2H4





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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13140 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9252 times:

I just passed by the area (Rt. 46) the road north of the border of Teterboro airport. Power is out for a number of blocks around. It partially crashed into a US Post Office annex building. This building is about 1/4 mile north of the northern border of the airport. Apparently is was a Cessna 172. They believe the pilot abord was killed, but not sure if there was a passanger or someone in or around the building was killed. The flight was originally headed for Fairfield (NJ) airport, and was attempting to land at Teterboro due to a problem. The NIMBY's will be out in full scream now!!

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9252 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 4):
SOUTH HACKENSACK, N.J. - A small plane struck a post office building near Teterboro Airport late Friday and crashed in a marshy area after the pilot radioed that he was having engine trouble.


As we can see, once basic information comes in, the airport didn't have anything to do with it....

[Edited 2005-09-03 05:25:11]

User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9216 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 6):

Yep, sure sounds like it's the airport's fault

CLOSE IT DOWN!
TEAR UP THE RUNWAYS!
PUT IN A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT!!!



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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9152 times:

oh crap... here we go again. the public is never going to trust GA again.  Sad


"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9103 times:

ugh not again....Cessna 177(?) en route to CDW, radioed fuel problems.

User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9070 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 1):
again!?


.. seems like this airport isnt safe

Eh, come to APA. Btw how does an engine problem = unsafe airport?


User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9021 times:

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 10):
Btw how does an engine problem = unsafe airport?

Welcome to the world of TEB... A Global could take off, fly across the globe, crash in Asia, and people would call for the closure of TEB.

In other news, TEB is set to have EMASS (concrete arrestor beds) placed between the approach of 24 and Rt. 46 this year...


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8631 times:

I wish they close that F***** airport. I've flown in there several times, its a pain in the ass, especially the departures.

User currently offlineFlyHoss From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8426 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 5):
The NIMBY's will be out in full scream now!!

First of all, you're right LTBEWR. But why is this true?

It's true because all of aviation has been to nice to put the NIMBYs back down. Was anyone, outside of the airplane, injured?

When there's a fatal accident on the highway, do the NIMBYs insist that the highway be closed? NO.

Over 40,000 people died in car accidents last year. Shall we ban all cars?

I say that we, and all of aviation, need to stand up to the NIMBYs. Ask them why they want to deny your civil right to travel...



A little bit louder now, a lil bit louder now...
User currently offlineAirEMS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 684 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7847 times:

If you think that airport isn't safe what about APA here in Denver...... We lead the nation in GA crashes......


If Your Dying Were Flying
User currently offlineDC10Heavy From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7519 times:

Although it is to early to tell the cause, one thing is certain, Teterboro has had some bad luck over the last two years!

Condolences to all involved families.



NWA DC10 LAX to HNL the only way to go!
User currently offlineN323ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6521 times:

don't think that it is the airport we should be talking about here. I think that it is the fact that both the approach and departure procedures are complex and most pilots are not trained to that level and don't want to take in the advanced knowledge on their own accord.

Just my opinion through many years of flying in and out of TEB

RYAN

RIAOPS



RYAN SCAIFE
User currently offlineTwinCommander From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6480 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 1):
again!?


.. seems like this airport isnt safe

Why would an aircraft that DIDN'T takeoff TEB and crash near TEB make TEB not safe or responsible?

For that matter, just because the aircraft took off from an airport doesn't exactly mean its the airports fault.


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6480 times:

Quoting AirEMS (Reply 14):
If you think that airport isn't safe what about APA here in Denver...... We lead the nation in GA crashes......

Numbers-wise but not percentage wise, APA is after all the 3rd busiest GA airport in America. Percentage-wise APA is actually pretty safe.


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6306 times:

An engine could fail or the same with other mechanical defects at any airport, at any time. Look at the US 737 into PIT in 94, the AA A300 at JFK in '01, the DC10 at ORD, the CRJ near JEF... are those airports unsafe?? Use some logic here, folks. Even the app/dep procedures at TEB are irrelevant to this crash.

User currently offlineN908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 939 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6024 times:

Quoting FlyHoss (Reply 13):
First of all, you're right LTBEWR. But why is this true?

It's true because all of aviation has been to nice to put the NIMBYs back down. Was anyone, outside of the airplane, injured?

When there's a fatal accident on the highway, do the NIMBYs insist that the highway be closed? NO.

Over 40,000 people died in car accidents last year. Shall we ban all cars?

I say that we, and all of aviation, need to stand up to the NIMBYs. Ask them why they want to deny your civil right to travel...

Welcome to my RR list  bigthumbsup  I don't get it though, TEB just has had plain old dumb luck. This is the fourth accident there in the last 18 months, right?



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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 5767 times:

Quoting N908AW (Reply 20):
This is the fourth accident there in the last 18 months, right?

And the first fatality if I remember right


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13140 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 5704 times:

My reference to the NIMBY's being riled up in the area of TEB is that there has been a number of accidents around the airport have occured in recent years, as well as growing noise complaints. Housing values near TEB have been going up greatly in recent years, so the new owners, although they knew they were near an airport, fear that increased numbers of incidents, crashes and more noise may badly affect their excessively priced home, especially if values level off from their current obscene highs.
By the way, I live less than 3 miles from TEB and often see approaching and departing aircraft from there often.


User currently offlineLeanOfPeak From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 509 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 5520 times:

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 9):
ugh not again....Cessna 177(?) en route to CDW, radioed fuel problems.

NYT reports C177A N30491.

The layman wouldn't know the difference between a 177 (Cardinal) and a 172.

An example of a 177 (Not the accident bird) is:

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Clearest differences are cantilever wing, steeply raked windshield, and full-flying stabilator. Aft fuselage contour is also very much different.


User currently offlineFlyHoss From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4894 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 22):
Housing values near TEB have been going up greatly in recent years, so the new owners, although they knew they were near an airport, fear that increased numbers of incidents, crashes and more noise may badly affect their excessively priced home

Good point, LTBEWR. IIRC, several years ago, a flight instructor at APA filed an attachment to the deed of a home owner, and president of the local anti-airport group, noting that her home suffered a "defect" because it was near APA. After all, Colorado is a "full-disclosure" state; you're required to list any fault or defect when you sell a home. The flight instructor used the words of the anti-airport leader against her own self (and self-interest). So, (again if IIRC) she sued him for devaluing her home.

Does anyone know how that lawsuit turned out?

Why do we coddle the NIMBYs? If they move in next to a hospital, fire station or police station, do they complain about the noise of the sirens and insist that facility be closed?

IMHO, the NIMBYs are only happy when they've something to complain about, no matter how lame.



A little bit louder now, a lil bit louder now...
25 Corey07850 : You don't hear them praising the amount of money airports like TEB and APA bring to the community, or the jobs they provide, and any other "good-neig
26 Nrcnyc : Forget the the nimbys, someone died, this should be the story. Instead I watch the news and see some local moron, with no credentials to comment on TE
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