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NZ Fed Up With AKL's Monopoly Airport Charges  
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12114 posts, RR: 18
Posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3360 times:
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3399484a13,00.html

Huse said the consultation process was clear and included court action as happened with Wellington airport, although "I certainly hope it doesn't come to that ... I think there's a lot of crying wolf." Don't blame NZ for wanting their own terminal considering AKLs charges for a B744 are more expensive then SYD, MEL and even CHC who only get a few B747s per week.

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User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2255 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3352 times:
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AKL have been ripping off the airlines for years. I hope Air NZ get their way, and build a combined terminal. Would be brilliant.

NZ1

Edit: Spelling

[Edited 2005-09-04 10:58:18]

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12114 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3339 times:
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Quoting NZ1 (Reply 1):

After seeing on the news AKLs charges compared to the main Australian airports, CHC and WLG, its no wonder every airline that serves AKL moans about the charges. I think at CHC you could land two B747s for the price of one B747 at AKL!


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 3, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3335 times:

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Auckland Airport chief executive Don Huse said the company was an honest broker resolving competing airline interests.

Aha... an "honest broker"? And one "resolving competing airline interests" at that? Might be news to him, but I'd guess that NZ is his biggest customer, so they can - and should - expect to get some form of preferential treatment...

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Having "common use" terminals gave airlines more flexibility than single use terminals and avoided overbuilding. They also gave lower barriers to entry for airline competition.

Very true - at airports where no airline has it's main hub... or at least not the airline in question.

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"So what would possibly be the motivation for a single airline wanting its own facilities?" said Huse.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl  Is this guy serious??? Please - someone get him a very, very strong coffee!!! I think he desparately needs to wake up!

Imagine LH at FRA completely combining it's flights with other airlines, or BA at LHR, or AF at CDG, ... the larger a hub gets, the more urgent the need for an own terminal that has the right size (bad example: BA at LHR with the split between T4 and T1).

Good luck to NZ!!!

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineTG990 From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3334 times:

The article says "that airport profit margins in New Zealand were 75%, while the norm in Europe was closer to 35%."

Ridiculous!! I imagine a lot of airlines want to start service into AKL, is this a factor in us not seeing them?

Does the airport even need this much money!? Shame on AKL airport!


User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6418 posts, RR: 38
Reply 5, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3307 times:

Where else has NZ got to go to as a hub? They can't possibly base themselves in CHC..

Looking at the progress they're making on the start of the new pier, how long will it take for NZ to have its own terminal, and where would it be built? If it was going to be the third pier, they would have to make the second half quickly after they have finished the first.

What will happen to the cargo building - now turned AKL domestic hub?

This will all take a lot of money and I hope it doesn't come out of more departure taxes out of AKL. Maybe they'll introduce landing taxes...



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12114 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3288 times:
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Quoting TG990 (Reply 4):
Ridiculous!! I imagine a lot of airlines want to start service into AKL, is this a factor in us not seeing them?

Does the airport even need this much money!? Shame on AKL airport!

Fully agree. AKL is New Zealands main airport with about 80% off all arriving and departing passengers passing throu AKL. Because of this AKL and Mr Huse should be leading by example. Sadly its very obviouse money makes their minds tick more then every one else.


User currently offlineRichardJF From New Zealand, joined Mar 2001, 792 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 1):
I hope Air NZ get their way, and build a combined terminal. Would be brilliant.

I suspect this would be a good idea. You get the money back off the retail and more to boot.


User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7093 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3240 times:

Good luck to NZ. I'm suprised that SYD is less than AKL. SYD is much more popular with airlines.

User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2954 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

So raise ticket prices on monopoly routes. Most routes are monpolies or duopolies anyways from AKL.
If a 744 is too much aircraft, get rid of them and downsize to a 773 or 772.


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12114 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3039 times:
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Quoting Carpethead (Reply 9):
So raise ticket prices on monopoly routes. Most routes are monpolies or duopolies anyways from AKL.
If a 744 is too much aircraft, get rid of them and downsize to a 773 or 772.

Thats not the issue, the issue is that AKL is Aucklands only airport so AKL can charge what ever they like. Make the Air Force base on the North Shore an International Airport and watch with laughter as Mr Huse tries to stop the new airport and him come up with pathitic excuses as to why an extra airport is not needed.


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5319 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (8 years 12 months 19 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

Yeah all the best to NZ on this issue, I really hope they get their way!

As for other airlines, I would think there are a few interested in flying here, i'm not to sure if there are any in negociation at the moment. I have heard of CI and AI having plans to fly here and a mainland Chinese carrier., not 100% sure when though. Hopefully we will see some new carriers soon though.


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