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User currently offlineBroncoguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7618 times:

A professor of mine, who teaches Introduction to Aviation, recently was telling the class about how on the A380s first flight it actually had a tail scrape. I was just wondering if this was really true, cuz Ive never heard about that before now. Just wondering

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User currently offlineEspion007 From Denmark, joined Dec 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7612 times:

Quoting Broncoguy (Thread starter):
A professor of mine, who teaches Introduction to Aviation, recently was telling the class about how on the A380s first flight it actually had a tail scrape. I was just wondering if this was really true, cuz Ive never heard about that before now. Just wondering

He was wrong. The first take off was recorded by hundreds of cameras and none of them showed a tail strike. He may have neen refering to several tests where that was deliberetly done.



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User currently offlineBroncoguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7608 times:

Quoting Espion007 (Reply 1):
He was wrong. The first take off was recorded by hundreds of cameras and none of them showed a tail strike. He may have neen refering to several tests where that was deliberetly done.

Thats what I thought, I was sure that if it had really happened then it would have been all over here and I never saw anything... Thanks


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7540 times:

As much as I think the A380 will be a 'white elephant', it's clear by this photo taken the second it became airborne for the first time there was no tail strike and he was wrong.

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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7512 times:

Quoting Broncoguy (Thread starter):
A professor of mine, who teaches Introduction to Aviation, recently was telling the class about how on the A380s first flight it actually had a tail scrape.

A very competent professor, I am sure that you will learn a lot of "interesting" stuff from him.

Patrick


User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3017 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7511 times:

Even if your professor is wrong, I wouldn't push the issue. Tends to be bad for the grades.


Firings, if well done, are good for employee morale.
User currently offlineBroncoguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7476 times:

I wasnt going to push the issue, I was just wondering if it was true or not, its going to be an easy A class anyways if it keeps going like it is.

User currently offlineHalibut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7388 times:

Your professor wouldn't happen to be Ward Churchill ?   

[Edited 2005-09-06 03:50:04]

User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1221 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7351 times:

Is the professor works for Boeing?

 duck  Sorry, couldn't resist.


User currently offlineBroncoguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7321 times:

Quoting Halibut (Reply 7):
Your professor wouldn't happen to be Ward Churchill ?



Quoting Afterburner (Reply 8):
Is the professor works for Boeing?

No, hahahaha, he isnt and I dont think so... but he is kind of weird.


User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1221 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7295 times:

Quoting Broncoguy (Reply 9):
but he is kind of weird

That explains everything. Big grin
I bet he's not a member of A.net.


User currently offlineBroncoguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7262 times:

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 10):
That explains everything.
I bet he's not a member of A.net.

God I hope not


User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5828 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7243 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3):
As much as I think the A380 will be a 'white elephant'

Why do YOU think it will be a 'white elephant'?

Gemuser



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User currently offlineRJ777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7174 times:

What School do you go to?

User currently offlineTIMC From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6944 times:

Quoting RJ777 (Reply 13):
What School do you go to?

He can't tell you that, you might be the lecturer! Big grin


User currently offlineGlareskin From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 1308 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6863 times:

Quoting Broncoguy (Thread starter):
on the A380s first flight it actually had a tail scrape

Either he is a nutty professor as described in some other reactions or he said the test pilots did a tail strike on purpose on "one of the first" flights, which is true....

In that case you were not paying attention very well!  Big grin



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User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6817 times:

Quoting Broncoguy (Reply 9):
but he is kind of weird.



Quoting Afterburner (Reply 10):
I bet he's not a member of A.net

 rotfl   rotfl 

Trying hard to figure out whether that was sarcasm or said in all seriousness!  biggrin 

Noel.


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13254 posts, RR: 77
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5950 times:

As there has been a lot of wishful thinking, disguised as 'informed speculation' on here, claiming that Airbus are somehow keeping problems with the A380 secret, I should perhaps direct those interested either way, to this week's Flight International.
It features on pages 18-19 a report on A380 flight test progress so far, including talking to crews, discussion of the delays caused by a multitude of different cabin configs, but mostly it's about the scope of the flight testing so far.


User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5871 times:

It's amazing what people will make up (or hope for) for the A380. When you think about it though -- only the truly powerful/great will garner so many detractors/enemies :p

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5773 times:

Maybe the Professor is confusing the Tail skid tests.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineCURLYHEADBOY From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5239 times:

Quoting Broncoguy (Thread starter):
A professor of mine, who teaches Introduction to Aviation, recently was telling the class about how on the A380s first flight it actually had a tail scrape.

He must be high on Skydrol...



If God had wanted men to fly he would have given them more money...
User currently offlineFlyMeToTheMoon From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 242 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5023 times:

This is why he teaches only Introduction to Aviation - cannot get his tail scrapes together! Or maybe just poor eyesight or an axe to grind with Airbus. At any rate, if I were you I would not pursue the issue with the prof - bad for grades. Besides it is only an Introduction course, you know better than him anyway.


Fly me to the moon... but not through LHR!
User currently offlineMaersk737 From Denmark, joined Feb 2004, 719 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4989 times:

Quoting FlyMeToTheMoon (Reply 21):
if I were you I would not pursue the issue with the prof - bad for grades.

How can it be bad for grades? Facts are facts.......


Cheers

Peter



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User currently offlineMorvious From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 707 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4786 times:

Yeah, and the first 747 takeoff went wrong to. It did crashed into the water just after takeoff.

Although filmed, they just "photoshopped" it!!  Wink

If I were you, I would have a look for a video of the first flight. Show it to your class. Remember, your teacher corrects you if you are wrong, so why can't you correct him!!

Make a fool of this weirdo Big grin



have a good day, Stefan van Hierden
User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1088 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4027 times:

And here is the video to show:
http://www.flightlevel350.com/viewer.php?id=3665
It clearly shows no tail scrape during TO.


25 Post contains links Klaus : The article(s) GDB spoke about (thank you!) are to be found here: A380 flight test update Part 2: Waking up to the problems of vortex Part 3: Early fl
26 EMBQA : Well, just look at the Airbus Order Book. It's been months since the last A380 order was placed, the A380 orders have still not broken 150 and that's
27 Lehpron : Give it a rest. Do you want to become an "I told you so" person so badly? Would you prefer to see all future aircraft orders made right now or within
28 Cruiser : I suspect that he might have been talking about the VMU tests. Perhaps he thought that this might have been the first takeoff? James
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