SF340 From Germany, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1417 times:
I seriously doubt either American or Delta would order either the A3XX. Both claim the 747-400 is too big for their routes so I can't see a bigger aircraft fitting their bill. Who reall knows for sure though. A number of airlines went out and got 747s when they were introduced in order to have them. That ruined more then a few of them
Blink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1224 times:
I doubt the A3XX will do good in the north american market, it is really expensive and most airlines saw what happened to numerous carriers when they ordered the 747 when it had just came out, and a large percentage of those carriers are not even flying any more, i think it is a risk and one most carriers wont take. and DL and AA are huge boeing costumers so that even makes it more doubtfull, plus an A3XX in DL colors, that would be really ugly
Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1209 times:
Do you not remember that back when the 747 was being designed, every analyst that thought themselves worth two cents said that the 747 would cause terrible, unsolvable people/traffic jams at the airport, and that it couldn't possibly ever succeed (let alone fly)? They were more against it than the people on this forum are (apparently) against the A3XX. There's a reason why they don't build 727 type wings anymore. Optimized for .84 Mach (real fast) cruise, yet expandable 25% for landing on a 5,000 ft. runway, who needs it in this era of fuel efficient .8 Mach cruise and 10,000 ft. runways?
I do not think that Delta, American, US Airways, TWA, or Continental will order it. But I bet United will. Delta doesn't have enough transpacific traffic to justify anything bigger than a MD-11 or 777 (shudder...), so it's doubtful they'll want it. With their large number of 767-300ERs and 767-400ERs on order, transatlantic flights are also out of the question. Delta never was suited to really big aircraft, and it's doubtful that'll change anytime soon.
Looks great, except the block letters "Delta" are a little angular:
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8114 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1166 times:
United will definitely buy it. If they take over USAirways the real winner will be Airbus.
Why are people so upset about the A3XX (ContinentalEWR)? It is only about 20% bigger than the 747, it'll be able to park in the same space. Airports around the world are already being built for them (HK, Denver, Seoul / Inchon et al), but in any case they'll have the same weight on each wheel (just as a 747 weighs less per wheel than a 707) so existing taxiways will be fine. Take off roll will be the same (only quieter). What's the problem? Some residents association in some city in the US recently announced they wouldn't let the A3XX land there cos it would "block out the sun"! Incredible, the residents in Boston said the same thing about the 747 in 1970.
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
Sqman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1157 times:
Why is Delta even looking into the Airbus the " save a buck aircraft " when they should pick up the phone and call Lockheed Martin and ask then to make a new Tristar an L-1012. To me the Tristar is a far better aircraft then the airbus.. and the L-1011 has shown over the years that it's one of the best aircraft ever made.. i know if delta get's the airbus i will never fly with them..
SF340 From Germany, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1131 times:
I belive the only two US carriers that would sow interest in the A3XX and 747X are United and FedEX, maybe UPS.
I don't know how good of a cargo aircraft they would make. The upper deck cuts down on the lower hold, adds weight, and would be nearly impossible to get loading equipment for heavy cargo up there. Plus the floors probably couldn't take it.
United may order a small number but even that is up in the air. Most of their runs in the Pacific support a 747 but not by a whole lot. There a few exceptions though
DeltaMan From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1105 times:
I agree with you Cedarjet! Hey, Airbus are pretty good planes... not my favorite but I think that they are awesome planes! I can't imagine why anyone would not like them. The L-1011 is a really awesome plane. Lockheed is one of the best!! Almost everything that they have made has sold really good and proved to be good airplanes! Boeing is awesome! I would love to see the A3XX do as good as the 747 did. Unfortunaly, I doubt the A3XX will be popular in the US either. But I don't think that anyone should have any hard feelings against anyone else about it!