Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3164 times:
Wish I had been around to see them. I have been able to find a few brief details about Court Line, particularly the collapse of the company and its impact.
Both photos and information on their gorgeous pibnk and yellow Tristars is hard to find. Were only 2 L1011s ever ordered/operated? Did they fly primarily from LTN? I know a series of charters to the Carribean was operated but were the aircraft deployed on the usual 'sun' routes? I know Malaga, Alicante, Palma, Tenerife, Gerona and in those days Rimini were the first big package holiday destinations. Were these served?
Was the interiors of Court Lines L1011s highly configured (10 abreast?) what were they like inside? did they have the downstairs galley? did the 'hosties' wear pink and yellow uniforms/mini skirts to match the aircrafts paint schemes?
A lot of questions I know, but I have long been fascinated with Court Line and suprisingly information on this, one of the UKs first holiday airlines is hard to find.
I know a little about Autair but it is Court and its charter operations I am particualrly interested in. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26010 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3121 times:
From the top of my head, the L10's were configured in a high density 10 across layout of near 400 seats.
The aircraft indeed had lower deck galleys and were unique that they featured self contained onboard passenger stairs that deployed from the rear cargo compartment and allowed passengers to deplane using the R3 door. I suppose this feature was useful (when it deployed properly) at some of the smaller Spanish airports that had yet to be properly equipped to handle widebodies in the early 1970s.
Some Spanish cities that saw the L10 included Malaga, Palma, Ibizia
Courtline also operated Caribbean chater flights to places like Jamaica and Antigua to tie into properties owned the Clarkson group.
Try to locate a book called Colours in the Sky: The Story of Autair International Airways and Courtline by Graham Simons.
[Edited 2005-09-07 12:13:56]
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Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3022 times:
Court ordered more TriStars than just the two that they actually took delivery of- can't remember how many now (five maybe?), but I do recall that the next one would have been green if the airline hadn't failed as a result of the Clarkson Holidays collapse. The Court L10s were I believe unique in that they had fold-out/down airstairs (a la 737 etc) on the rear doors to allow passengers to deplane and enplane at airports that didn't have steps to widebody height. The L10s operated mainly from LTN, but I do recall seeing them both on the ground at EMA one morning when the typical autumn fogs invaded their home base.
As has been said, you really should get the book "Colour in the Skies" as it tells the entire story pretty well.
TriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3011 times:
Another first on these particular L10's were the larger No. 4 doors, which were needed in order to get the aircraft certified for high-density configuration. These were AFAIk unique to the Court Line and BA-ordered longbody TriStars.
Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
Broke From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2865 times:
The airstairs on the Court Line L-1011's were quite an arrangement. The stairs, when folded, were stored inside one of the lower deck cargo compartments. The door would open, the stairs would extend out and then translate to the entry door both in a longitudinal and vertical direction.
Needless to say, they were not too reliable and often the passengers disembarked via ladders.
With the British girls wearing very short miniskirts, there was no lack of "gentlemen" willing to help them down the ladder.
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2617 times:
Just a little outside this topic to say that Court Line used to be a regular visitor to LIS in early 70's, I do recall seeing their planes and the reason was that their livery at that time was very, very advanced and modern taking in mind that the regular livery of an airline was white (on top)/color cheatline (middle)/metal (bottom) and Court Line was an all around livery!!!