XFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4300 posts, RR: 34 Posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5767 times:
So, apparently last saturday a UPS charter aircraft landed in MEM and taxied into their ramp. No one was around to unload it or handle it.
They waited around and ended up having to head over to the FedEx facility and get offloaded by FedEx ramp. Now that's got to be rather embarrassing- and as ironic as anything. Anybody hear anything else about it?
Abbs380 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5712 times:
I don't know anything about the above incident. But before this gets out of hand let me tell you how it really works. As everyone knows FedEx and UPS compete fiercely for business, but behind the scenes they treat each other very civilly and with respect (at least in Air Ops). At remote stations if one has a down airplane and the other has the part needed to get it up, they will loan or sell the part required to get the a/c up. I have seen this happen many times. Neither will take advantage of the others hardship.
Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4676 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5412 times:
Quoting Squad55 (Reply 3): We would never let a non UPS trained individual unload our cargo, touch or aircraft or even breathe on our aircraft.
All non UPS employees who set foot on our ramp (i.e. fuel etc) have to go thru a UPS training program. So as far as Fedex unloading a UPS aircraft, it would never happen.
Also, that is pure bonafide teamster work being completed by non union employees..
Who do you think works the aircraft when ever they would come into TOL during the holiday rush to handle all the shipments by Hickory Farms going out? UPS? LOL Try BAX. They contract it out...just like any other city where they need to. Don't be so naive.
Skyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5067 times:
I'm not sure about the air ops side as I work in ground ops....but we're very civil and friendly to each other. Everytime we pass one another on the road we give a friendly wave. We're all out there trying to earn a living...so why do you need hostility???
As for this thread...it was obviously unloaded by FedEx personnel....so why the complaining???
It was not obviously unloaded by FEDEX. The original poster says "apparently". UPS aircraft would never be unloaded by fedex employees in a situation like that. He says the UPS aircraft landed and there was nobody around to unload the aircraft. Stuff like taht does not happen...
Why would fedex unload a UPS aircraft?? Is Fedex going to process the UPS packages? If there was nobody to unload the aircraft there probably wasn't anyone to unload the ULD's into the system. So therefore what would be the point of unloading it?
The poster is obviously wrong it never happened and this has been confirmed.
Aogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4995 times:
Um.......Squad55..you might want to tone it down. 5X here, and yeah, it would happen in a heartbeat if necessary. We work with FedEx all the time, its a fact of life. Things break, (even the system sometimes) and we depend on each other to make it happen. Its like that throughout the industry...c'mon.......everyone knows that.
Planespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3547 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4950 times:
from what i've seen and heard, only the management of UPS and FedEx have any animosity towards the other...i've heard both FedEx and UPS pilots both say they don't feel anything against the other guy, they're just trying to earn a living and fly airplanes.
NASOCEANA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4744 times:
It is very common place for both UPS and FedEx to help each other out. Back when there was the anthrax scare at different Post offices UPS allowed FedEx to unload its cargo at their ramp with their equipment of ORF. The FedEx ramp is beside the USPS ramp and that side of the ramp was completely evacuated until Hazmat cleared it. Turned out to be powder or something like that.
On another occasion that was documented with pictures in the signals pamphlet (if you work for FedEx, then you know what I'm referring to) UPS paid FedEx to deliver UPS store signs. Because they didn't fly heavy weights (packages over 150 lbs) then, they shipped them via FedEx. Everyone around the ramp got a pretty big kick out of it!
UPS Pilot From United States of America, joined May 1999, 871 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4653 times:
AOG and Ramprat are correct. Square you are misinformed. AOG FDX even provided Sim time for the intital A300 instruction but I seem to remember they kicked us out. FDX and UPS actually do have a pretty good releationship away from sales and management. AOG, I thought you use to get 2 A300's in Buf? I see 2 75's and 1 A300. Never mind I'm thinking BOS.
FX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4451 times:
Yeah you guys are all right, I work for DHL now after years with FedEx at ONTR and some brief time at UPS. Everybody gets along pretty well. I have had to call upon my former colleagues at FedEx numerous times to help me out with my DHL flight and I have still helped with FedEx flights and I have been with DHL for a little over 6 months.