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Crew Rests On Charter Carriers?  
User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2278 times:
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We all know that aircraft flying long-haul scheduled services with the legacy carriers have various types of crew rest facilities for both pilotes and cabin crew.

But do crews on long-haul charter flights have this "perk" too?

I'm thinking of the 757s, 767s, 310s and 330s flown by Air Transat, MYT, Excel, Monarch and all the others.

When looking at their seat maps the aircraft are packed solid with seats, with a few lavs and galleys squeezed in whereever possible. Are some of the seats reserved for crew rest purposes or do crews have to make do with a jumpseat for a few minutes?

I have heard that working for charter companies is harder than flying for the big names, but 1000s are still applying for jobs there, so it can't be that bad after all... or?


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User currently offlineAzstar From United States of America, joined May 2005, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2243 times:

I've wondered about the same thing. Once I flew from Paris to San Francisco on a 747 chartered by UTA during one of its weekly pilots strikes. The aircraft was operated by Orion Int'l. The flight came from SF to Paris, was on the ground about two hours, and flew back with a full ship. It landed in MSP for fuel at about 2 AM (local time). Do you think they carried an extra crew on board for the SFO to PAR sector?

User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2208 times:

Most (if not all) 744 have a crew rest above the door 5 lav complex.
Some have a flight deck crew rest on the right side just aft of the flight deck.
Corsair does not have the flight deck crew rest, but does have the door 5 crew rest. Some operators also curtain off a row of seats.

Tod


User currently offlineCorsairf/a From France, joined Oct 2000, 373 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2168 times:

At Corsair the flight deck crew rest is just at the top of the stairs linking the main deck to the U/D. It is a lie-flat bed, there is also a PTV.

User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

Corsairf/a,

Thanks for the correction, I forgot about the converted u/d closet space.
Great hide-out spot!

Tod


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2003 times:
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The 744 is obviously a great aircraft for crews, a pity only a few charter carriers fly them.

But how about the 767s and 330s flying Europe-Caribbean charters. What are they like to work (and rest) on...?



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User currently offlineBA380 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1998 times:

a BA CSD told me that crews hate the older T7s in BA's fleet as they have no real rest area, whereas the 744s have a flight rest behind flight deck, crew rest at back and the CSD's office below the stairs. So it's not just charter!


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User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1929 times:

Quoting BA380 (Reply 6):
BA CSD told me that crews hate the older T7s in BA's fleet as they have no real rest area, whereas the 744s have a flight rest behind flight deck, crew rest at back and the CSD's office below the stairs.

Some of the BA 777 have a Flight Structures brand door 3 overhead crewrest that's pretty nice. About half of the BA 744 fleet have an expanded door 5 overhead crew rest that even has it's own lav. That was some fun plumbing to design.

Tod


User currently offlineNG737PSR From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1899 times:

On UK Charter 763s - three places

1) A crew jumpseat in the galley
2) A bar box in the galley taken out of stowage with a pillow on top to sit on
3) An observers seat on the flight deck

We are not allowed to sleep though. Flights are up to 10hrs


User currently offlineRen41 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

The World Airways MD-11 I flew last year had two First Class seats curtained off near the rear of the Y cabin. I was on a pretty short BOS-SJU flight, so they gave those seats to passengers. For a charter airline, World Airways is quite nice. The DC-10 on the way back was very outdated though.

R41


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