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Why Did Concorde Stop Flying?  
User currently offlineHT1000 From French Polynesia, joined Jun 2005, 40 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 21876 times:

Maybe an old topic but I wondered why did both AF and BA stop operating concorde shortly after they paid $$$$ for new certification program with new tyres ??

Just after the accident, wasn't it the right time to stop operating it although it was very prestigious for AF and BA ?

HT1000


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User currently offlineBomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 21858 times:

The Concord became very costly to operate. Could you imagine operating an aircraft that uses more fuel on approach then it does while cruising at Mach 2.0 with today's oil prices? It just simply wasn't cost effective to operate anymore for BA and AF.

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User currently offlineB2707SST From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 1369 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 21849 times:

To make a long story short, the lingering effects of the crash, escalating maintenance costs due to age, 9/11, and the recession made it unprofitable for AF to continue service. BA was still making money on Concorde in 2003, but without AF to split Airbus' support costs, it was forced to drop Concorde as well.

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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 21825 times:

Airbus decided to quit supporting the a/c, which would have been quite expensive for BA and AF to keep flying without manufacturer support (While Airbus didn't build the Concorde, some of the companies involved with building it are part of the Airbus consortium.), as they would have had to fabricate parts and probably would have had to retire a few for spares as well.

User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 21806 times:

15% load-factor on AF during spring before the announcement to stop flying the Concorde. Too much money lost in other words....

User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6515 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 21773 times:

Alessandro is right.

Both the AF crash and probably also the escalating Iraq war removed the glamor of Concorde flights between Paris and New York resulting in extremely low load factors for AF. And AF therefore ended Concorde flights in May 2003.

With the total fleet cut in half Airbus refused to continue technical support of the aircraft which ignited the fuse for ending BA flights as well a few months later.



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User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1586 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 21739 times:

GDB

Where are you to relate, for the ten millionth time, the facts with regard to the withdrawal of Concorde?

HT1000

There must be thousands of threads on the subject. If you are REALLY interested in a definitive answer, just do a search for inputs from a very qualified BA Concorde engineer, Username GDB. Don't forget to look deeply into the archives as wel!

Read them, and digest them, then go away a far better educated person.

As usual, if this thread is not stopped we'll have yet another load of absolute waffle with over 100 replies, all based on hypothesis and dreams from the uninitiated.



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