BHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1086 posts, RR: 6 Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3699 times:
Does anyone know what the next transatlantic link is going to be ?
what do you think is going to be the next US gateway to be opened up to Europe / Africa ??
The usual suspects being NYC/LAX/ORD/BOS and I guess MIA and IAD to a degree but thinking in the future, do you ever think we'll see a direct link say from St Louis for example again.. or how about other smaller US / Canadian cities ??
Just a topic I thought might be of some interest... also is Charlotte served direct into LGW still with US ?
Im always interested in route networks.. Id like to hear your ideas..
B6sea From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 340 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3683 times:
Well, some of this may be wishful thinking but I've always thought that SEA would be the next city to be opened up to europe flights. Also I think once someone acquires the 787 or A350 you will see a lot more opening up of secondary US/Canadian cities to europe.
BHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1086 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3624 times:
Im pretty sure FNT was served direct... anyone else know ??
It was around '98 ?... served actually I believe with a 744... I hope Im not wrong... the thought of BA sending a 744 into bishop is awesome !!!
See I would love to have seen New Orleans served direct or Fort Lauderdale..
San Antonio for instance, you get the idea.. Big cities in their own right but not big in transatlantic terms...
B6sea From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 340 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3607 times:
I thought about this more and I think that my SEA response is only partly true, in the sense that SEA is actually quite well served to europe. I mean, we have SAS, Aeroflot, NW and BA instead of the conventional BA LH and AF assortment. But I can still see someone from skyteam starting a CDG flight and an FRA flight with LH, the PDX flight, I believe, is mostly O&D so that wouldnt really factor in and flights to YVR are damn expensive.
BHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1086 posts, RR: 6 Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3203 times:
Quoting Crownvic (Reply 11): I highly doubt that FNT was ever served by BA because the Bermuda II would never have allowed it. Is it possible you saw or heard about a DTW diversion that is confusing you???
No it was in their timetable.... with a '0' where it usually shows if a change of acft is needed...
Anyone else know ??
Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 27 Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3118 times:
British Airways has NEVER served Flint Michigan.
If a British Airways aircraft was there, it was either one of two things, a diversion or a charter.
If the flight was shown in the timetable, it was certainly a mistake. They do happen!
So back to the topic.
Are we talking about "US" as in USAirways, or "US" as in the U.S.A.?
If we're talking about the airline, don't expect anything other than transAtlantic growth from PHL.
If we're talking about the nation, does a market exist to Europe that is not already being served?
The nation's airlines are rationalizing networks, not expanding them.
So that leaves international carriers.
DFW. I would love to see the new terrminal filled up...but I am not so sure that will happen as soon as I'd like it. The SkyTeam powerhouse 250 miles south of there steals a lot of DFW's thunder....textbook study of what happens when airport's hitch their wagon to the fortunes of one airline.
Nothing wrong with that, but any international growth from DFW will be by AA, and that will not be happening anytime soon.
SFO. I wonder how the new breed of long-range/medium capacity aircraft will play into SFO's future European connections. (787/350)
Whatever the route, it will need to be a strong O/D market, as connectivity is limited.
Can we expect to see Madrid, Moscow, Manchester and Milan in the future?; it would sure be nice, but I'm not holding my breath.
MSY. A popular target of speculation before the hurricane. It will all depend on how the Crescent City is re-built....Can it be made into an even better tourist destination?
BOS. Most inconsistent international gateway in North America...."Now you see it, now you don't" type of thing. Since BOS is a hub for no one really, routes are stated by airlines with hubs elsewhere, the BOS flights then must exist on their own O/D only with little or support or feed from the greater network....so ultimately, these routes fail.
ORF. I wonder....If fares were ridiculously low, could they draw from the hinterland? But other equally as large places exist without transAtlantic flights..JAX, CMH, MKE, MCI, STL, BUF, SAT, so on and so on....so what makess ORF special? I don't know, just a gut feeling. 10-15 years from now.
PDX. This seems to be a favorite of the fantasy crowd. What happens in PDX has a lot to do with what happens up the road in SEA....will fees divert growth to PDX? Probably not as much as the Port of Portland would like. Could PDX support LHR/LGW, AMS, CDG? Maybe not all at once, but rather one at a time...so of the three, London is the choice of locals, but I am leaning to AMS, within 24-30 months.
Popular in Europe, not so much in the USA.
Even Canada has Zoom.
Right now, SFB is the primary point in the USA for such airlines....once in awhile there is an LTU service to LAX, Corsair/Martinair did their thing to OAK once upon a time, Icelandair and their niche is landing at SFO, for now...but for the most part, transAtlantic is the domain of the US Legacies and European Flag Carriers.
If the trend matures in the US, I think beyond SFB, BWI and OAK make great choices. I have also wondered about ONT.....would someone drive inland to board a 767 packed with 250 seats for a 12-hour flight to STN...all in the name of saving $300-$500 per ticket?
Too bad DFW is so expensive, because it's central location would be great for such "public-charte" type services.
AHHH yeah.. I hear you on that one !! Anyone know if that would ever happen ??
Also NW... now thats an interesting one and I want opinions...
US,AA,CO,DL all serve more than one destination in the UK and Europe.. NW only serves LGW... with all the new 330's coming would you not think a move to MAN or (now heres some wishfull thinking BHX be on the cards ?? I mean look how far south LGW is from Scotland,The midlands, etc etc
I know UA also only serve LHR but with the BD base there, their is probably no need as they would send all the long haul traffic from IAD,LAX,JFK onto BD flights connecting up to MAN and so on etc etc
Your thoughts my comrades..
MD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2172 times:
Quoting B6sea (Reply 1): Well, some of this may be wishful thinking but I've always thought that SEA would be the next city to be opened up to europe flights. Also I think once someone acquires the 787 or A350 you will see a lot more opening up of secondary US/Canadian cities to europe.
SK flies SEA-CPH I would consider that transatlantic service