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Airtran Missing 31F On 73Gs

RamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1682 times:

FL is missing the window seat on the 737-700s. They are not close to exceeding the next interval of 50 for the FAA's F/A requirement. Why don't they have a seaat there?
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King From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1633 times:

No room for the seat, because of the curve of the aircraft. And it makes the aircraft have 137 seats. Easier for the crew members to remember the amount of seats. There are 137 on the B737 and 117 on the B717.

Flyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1015 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

Quoting King (Reply 1):
No room for the seat, because of the curve of the aircraft. And it makes the aircraft have 137 seats. Easier for the crew members to remember the amount of seats. There are 137 on the B737 and 117 on the B717.

I'm sure it had to do with no room, probably for the XM equipement or something, and not so the crews will have an easier time remembering how many seats there are. FL is too cheap to use that as a reason.

VC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3677 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

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Quoting King (Reply 1):
Easier for the crew members to remember the amount of seats.

Quoting Flyibaby (Reply 2):
FL is too cheap to use that as a reason.

NO airline would take out a seat for that reason. How much potential revenue would be lost over the course of a year?

Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1503 times:

When you look at the seat maps for CO's and AS's 73Gs, they have 12A&12F missing. I couldn't find a seat map for WN's 73Gs for comparison. FL's 73Gs have a 30" pitch while AS has a 32" pitch and CO offers a 31" pitch (FL's coach seats are wider than CO's and AS's though).

N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1488 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 4):
I couldn't find a seat map for WN's 73Gs for comparison.

WN's 73Gs hold 137 seats, but are all Y and have around 33" in pitch

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Miami1 From Australia, joined Feb 2001, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1386 times:

The seat is missing due to the curvacture of the aircraft. Row 31 on FL is usually where the toilets are on 737s of most other airlines. There is simply to enough width that far back in the cabin to have 6 abreast.

FL 737s have the toilets aft of the rear doors, where most of the time you see a galley across the back. FL 73Gs have only one galley - at the front.

It is not related to XM equipment.

Lincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1362 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 4):
When you look at the seat maps for CO's and AS's 73Gs, they have 12A&12F missing

And that makes 14A and 14F the best seats on that aircraft... Better seat pitch than any other seat I've occupied Smile

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No complaining about pitch when you have 60"+ to the seat in front of you and have to unbuckle your seatbelt to even kick your carry on back under the seat in front of you. (It slid back even with row 12 during the climb).

Curvature of aircraft would normally be the reason behind such a move... Interesting thing is that Boeing's Commercial Airplanes Reference Guide 2004-2005 shows the 73G with an "Inclusive Tour" configuration -- one class, 30" pitch with three seats all the way back (and only 12F missing). Capacity, according to Boeing,in that configuration is 149.

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737-990 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 364 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1331 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 4):
When you look at the seat maps for CO's and AS's 73Gs, they have 12A&12F missing. I couldn't find a seat map for WN's 73Gs for comparison. FL's 73Gs have a 30" pitch while AS has a 32" pitch and CO offers a 31" pitch (FL's coach seats are wider than CO's and AS's though).

12AF are missing because that's where the exit row is at. Airlines have two ways to configure the single overwing exit. They can have a normal seat pitch on the row minus the window seats or they can have a row with lots of leg room (usually 40") without removing the window seat.

What's interesting is that AS, AQ and CO all have the same config on their 73Gs, 124 seats (12F/112Y). FL however squeezes 2 more rows to get 137 seats (12F/125Y). You can't really compare WN since they are all Y, but even they only have 137 seats. If they used the same seat pitch as FL they would have 149Y seats.

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717-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1197 times:

The one good thing with FL's single galley at the front is that there
are two lavatories instead of one at the back end of the cabin.
Considrering that FL uses its 73G's on its long range flights to the
West Coast you don't have so much of a line waiting to use the lav
like on WN with only one lav in the rear of their 737's. Is AirTran the
only airline to have ordered 737's without a rear galley?

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Flyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1015 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

Quoting 717-200 (Reply 9):
The one good thing with FL's single galley at the front is that there
are two lavatories instead of one at the back end of the cabin.
Considrering that FL uses its 73G's on its long range flights to the
West Coast you don't have so much of a line waiting to use the lav
like on WN with only one lav in the rear of their 737's. Is AirTran the
only airline to have ordered 737's without a rear galley?

Where are you getting this from? I have never seen a 737 even the 732 without two lavs in the rear. The only difference is where they are. Sometimes they are where the galley would be, and most times they are forward of the aft exits.

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