Cidflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1990 posts, RR: 3 Posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1877 times:
We all know that Allegiant mainly flies people from smaller to mid sized markets to the vacation destinations of LAS and SFB. I was curious if anyone knows, how many originating passengers from LAS or SFB use the flights in reverse to fly to those markets. For instance, there are a number of retirees in the LAS and SFB area from the midwest, would any of those people use Allegiant to fly back to their home of Peoria, for example? I know people who live in LAS who fly back to CID using Allegiant, and also another family from Cedar Rapids who got transfered down to the Orlando area whose daughter attends college back here in Iowa are thrilled that they now have a non stop flight back home. Just curious to see if there are any percentage numbers of people who use these flights "in reverse" so to speak...thanks in advance!
Iowaman From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 4088 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1845 times:
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Well I'm not exactly sure but I thought a while back someone said it was 2 or 3% originating from SFB and LAS, my step dad is working out there and doing LAS-CID-LAS flights every couple months, it's really nice the way that works as almost everyone is heading to LAS for the weekend and he is flying to CID for the weekend. Maybe ATCRick or another Allegiant poster could tell you for sure as I would be interested in the exact numbers also...
ATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 14 Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1819 times:
Good evening all G4 fans. I dont have access to those numbers but I am hoping with the growing destinations( i.e.RAP, Black Hills, Sturgis, Deadwood), we will attract more LAS and SFB residents. Of course I am sure NW entering our markets is a concern, but I think that challenging G4 will give them one more thing to worry about that they shouldn't focus on right now. One thing you can count on. G4 dong their best to serve the customer.
N908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 848 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1811 times:
Good evening ATCRick!
LAS-Midamerica almost would seem to me like one of the big "other way" routes, cuz nobody else offers that kind of uptown STL service.
'Cause you're on ATA again, and on ATA, you're on vacation!
ATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 14 Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1772 times:
LAS-Midamerica almost would seem to me like one of the big "other way" routes, cuz nobody else offers that kind of uptown STL service
Ahhh yes. And good evening to you. We'll see what prevails. But do not forget one important thing. Your opinions are heard and looked into. And appreciated by people alot higher on the food chain then me. Keep in touch.
Iowaman From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 4088 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1776 times:
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Quoting N908AW (Reply 3): LAS-Midamerica almost would seem to me like one of the big "other way" routes, cuz nobody else offers that kind of uptown STL service.
Very true, and I could also see the new SFB-Stewart, NY route also could be like that.
I was thinking, could Allegiant make LAS-LNK (Lincoln, Nebraska) work? It may be to close to OMA and they have WN to LAS, but so does STL and BLV seems to be going well. LNK is another smaller-medium sized city that would seem to fit in Allegiant's business model. LNK currently has no LCC service, there current service is NW to MSP, DTW, MEM (all CRJ's) and UA to ORD and DEN (CRJ's).
ATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 14 Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1753 times:
Iowaman,
good evening. As usual you are joining into an intelligent conversation. A nice change from what I read in this forum normally. I wish I could give you better info. LAS-BLV seems to be doing well. It's a new plan (I would imagine with the new NW competition) but our people know what they are doing. I look forward to the future and I am confident we can fend off any challenges. Time will tell sir.
ATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 14 Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1730 times:
NikV69,
That plug is defintely worth a walk across the office. Although, you have proven your worth a long time ago. Thanx for the pic
My pleasure, good chance a copy of it will be hanging in the new terminal at IFP. I spend just about every day there in the winter and got friendly with one of the exec directors of the airport. She expressed some interest in my work and believe me they need some good pics there! Will keep you posted.
ATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 14 Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1683 times:
NIKV69,
I will be in IFP a couple of times over the next few weeks. I'll be meeting my mother at the AVI for my birthday (Sep 20) and I'll be at the Riverside for a bowling tourney Oct 2nd. Wanna do some spotting????
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5526 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1668 times:
I knew some people from work and in my neighborhood that had relatives from LAS area that used G4's nonstop service to ICT. They mentioned how convenient and inexpensive G4 was to get to their destinations.
NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1656 times:
Quoting ATCRick (Reply 10): NIKV69,
I will be in IFP a couple of times over the next few weeks. I'll be meeting my mother at the AVI for my birthday (Sep 20) and I'll be at the Riverside for a bowling tourney Oct 2nd. Wanna do some spotting????
I would but I am not in Laughlin yet!
I arrive right before New Years and leave mid March. Please check on that new terminal and give me an update! Also email FlagshipAZ and let him know you are coming. Tom will definitely be into spotting and if you have some spare time I suggest a drive to IGM. It's only 20-30 mins away.
Midway7 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 140 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1647 times:
Hello everyone:
Any in the know as to how SGF is doing. I fly from SGF to ORD a lot and see the LAS pax checking in, etc. Seems to be a good crowd.
I'm giving it a try at the end of the month. Looking forward to flying to LAS without having to go through DEN.
ATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 14 Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1625 times:
Midway7,
Welcome aboard. I hope your flight is on time and pleasent. Email me if you want to do some spotting or need any info about Vegas. And thanx for flying Allegiant. If you dont have hotel reservatons yet, check with us as we have great package deals.
NIKV69,
I will email Tom. Thanks for the suggestion about Kingman. Sounds great. Let me know when you're in town.
FATFlyer,
I haven't heard from you in awhile. I hope all is well? Same goes for Kcrwflyer and cldflyer. Talk to me goose!
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5667 posts, RR: 18 Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1606 times:
Quoting ATCRick (Reply 14): FATFlyer,
I haven't heard from you in awhile. I hope all is well? Same goes for Kcrwflyer and cldflyer.
Busy, busy, busy plus travelling the past 2 weekends with my wife. I hear we should have another route announcement soon for Allegiant.
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5526 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1586 times:
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5667 posts, RR: 18 Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1570 times:
That's Clarence Oveur. Over.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
ATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 14 Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1567 times:
Wow. Stand by why I try to get my foot out of my mouth!
Flyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1919 posts, RR: 11 Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1562 times:
FATFlyer and ATCRick,
Good day to you all. I keep hearing rumblings that G4 will be entering into the Ohio market soon. I can think of 4 airports they would be thinking entering. I was just wondering what your thoughts on these airports are.
YNG - I heard through an informant they were heavily weighing this airport and an announcement was very likely. I could see doing both LAS and SFB a couple times weekly here because IMO it fits G4's profile.
LCK - I would think this is another airport that fits their profile like a BLV only serving the Columbus/Southern Ohio market.
TOL - While TMA already flies SFB, G4 could really give them a run for their money and IMO would be better for TOL then TMA. I think they both could cohabit in the market with TMA having connecting to the Carribbean. LAS would make money because when TMA flew it, the 757s were always full.
DAY - While FL hasn't tapped the LAS market yet G4 could get a leg up on the competition and run the route prolly fairly successful.
Cidflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1990 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1521 times:
Quoting ATCRick (Reply 14): I haven't heard from you in awhile. I hope all is well? Same goes for Kcrwflyer and cldflyer. Talk to me goose!
Doing great ATCRick! Great to see CID-SFB finally made it to the schedules! Will definitely use it to visit the relatives in Orlando.
N908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 848 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1527 times:
Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 19): YNG - I heard through an informant they were heavily weighing this airport and an announcement was very likely. I could see doing both LAS and SFB a couple times weekly here because IMO it fits G4's profile.
Sounds good to me.
Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 19):
LCK - I would think this is another airport that fits their profile like a BLV only serving the Columbus/Southern Ohio market.
WN might offer cheap service between CMH and LAS, but heh, look at OKC.
Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 19): TOL - While TMA already flies SFB, G4 could really give them a run for their money and IMO would be better for TOL then TMA. I think they both could cohabit in the market with TMA having connecting to the Carribbean. LAS would make money because when TMA flew it, the 757s were always full.
TOL would work.
Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 19): DAY - While FL hasn't tapped the LAS market yet G4 could get a leg up on the competition and run the route prolly fairly successful.
FL seems like just the carrier that would announce this route if G4 did...
But first let's hit up the Midwestern cities and get back at NW for ruining our fun. I can think of a pair of MN cities that would service it quite well...
'Cause you're on ATA again, and on ATA, you're on vacation!
CIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1990 posts, RR: 3 Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1492 times:
Quoting N908AW (Reply 21): I can think of a pair of MN cities that would service it quite well...
RST(Rochester, MN) and DLH(Duluth, MN) come to mind......
I will email Tom. Thanks for the suggestion about Kingman. Sounds great. Let me know when you're in town.
Awesome, definitely get a hold of Tom, tell him I said to email me. Hope you guys have a good time. As for me I snow bird it so you can can catch me at IFP in the winter. I hate the NY winters!
N908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 848 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1474 times:
Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 22):
RST(Rochester, MN) and DLH(Duluth, MN) come to mind......
Yup. Imagine how much that would tick off Steenland.
'Cause you're on ATA again, and on ATA, you're on vacation!
25 SunValley: Allegiant's Originating ticket lift at LAS is 3.25% of overall boardings. That means that 96.75% of their passengers originate in a downline city and
26 KcrwFlyer: I've been fairly silent lately so i thought ied drop in. I think they should fly to crw...but i guess you all knew that. *drifts back in to silence*
27 FATFlyer: Thanks for the numbers SunValley. I always knew the % of sales through vacation packages was over 75% but didn't have a better number.
28 ATCRick: FlyinRyan99, Welcome to the Allegiant threads. And very good information. You'll make friends here. Just a little advice, always look to FATFlyer, CID
29 FlyCMH: Looking at their route map, I'd imagine G4 would be setting their sights on Ohio in the near future. As to where is anyone's guess. My $0.02 is as fol
30 FATFlyer: Interesting thoughts. Ohio is one of the holes that Allegiant will probably address in coming months. I'm also starting to wonder about Allegiant's C
31 ATCRick: FATFllyer, We announced a new city today. How do you do it?
32 FATFlyer: LOL. A little professional magic, a little instinct, a little guessing, a little timing, a little charm, a little fancy footwork, and a little luck.
33 N908AW: Definitely. You guys have a totally different market strategy than everybody else. Who else would think to fly MadDogs to small towns that need the s
34 FATFlyer: And you never see this many threads about a TransMeridian or Hooters.
35 Georgiabill: ATCRick, Is Portsmouth meeting expectations?
37 FATFlyer: Actually it was a good question since Allegiant doesn't always wait for a route to start. Good early bookings are important otherwise they may pull t
38 ATCRick: FATFlyer, we keep getting better and better people in these G4 threads. Now we can add FLYCMH to that list. FLYCMH, I think TOL above the others. But
39 B757capt: One our managers at LCK met 2 folks from G4 about 1 week ago now. They where checking the place out. LCK is a great airport this would be very interes
40 Ouboy79: FATFlyer, Passenger wise out of TOL, shouldn't be much of an issue. TMA did 2 weekly 757s out there, and also for a short time a 3rd flight that stop
41 Wedgetail737: Are the MD-83's capable of reaching all the cities in OH, evening during the summer without weight restrictions?
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