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Could OH Feed DL At JFK To BTV, ALB, PWM, Etc.  
User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3535 times:

Do you think OH/Comair could feed Delta's trans-atlantic flights by one or two daily CRJ-200s to each of these cities? I think at least 1 daily CR2, timed for international connections, would work for Burlington.
-Mr. X


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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3414 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3476 times:

I personally feel PVD could support and 1x daily JFK flight timed for the evening Int'l push too...

User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3364 times:

I know JFK/SYR/BUF have competitionf rom jetBlue, but I think the convenience of interlining with international carriers, having one ticket, and being in the same terminal would allow DL to draw the connection pax in.


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User currently offlineNYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 693 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3342 times:

Connecting traffic can dilute the yields of a flight. American tried to use Eagle flights to feed its operation out of JFK for quite some time. JetBlue's entry into the BUF/ROC/SYR markets put the nail in the coffin.

At its peak, American Eagle had JFK service to Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, Hartford, Providence, Worcester, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Boston, Cleveland, Columbus, Washington Dulles, Washington Reagan, Montreal and Raleigh. The only service that remains is BOS, DCA, YUL, RDU, and 1 lone flight to CLE.

AA has decided not to build a large RJ wing for its new terminal at JFK, because the feeder traffic didn't make much. I would assume it's the same for Delta. Both legacy carriers are most likely better off concentrating on O & D traffic out of JFK.


User currently offlineJFKLGANYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3537 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

Actually, NYCAAer, rumor has it that Eagle will return a large number of flights to JFK, with the whole domicile moving back to Kennedy from LGA.

You have to remember a few things:
1. Most of those flights were flown with Saabs. Saabs have been pulled from the NE. It's hard to send an RJ between JFK and ALB . . . the economics are different (a lot different)

2. Eagle had a trailer park for a gate are throughout most of construction. There was a time when Eagle had the whole west side of the last concourse in T9. But when the middle concourse was taken down, everything got squished into the one remaining domestic concourse causing Eagle to get pushed into the temporary gates. These gates couldn't handle much.

3. If you look at the new terminal, the RJ concourse was eliminated, but according to the press release, Eagle will have 9 gates when all is said and done. The original plan called for 15 gates. Point being is, the terminal was downsized due to AA financial heartache after 9/11. Eagle will still be a MAJOR player feeding AAs flights . . . there 9 gates came at the expense of mainline flights.

JFK and Eagle have a lot of factors that complicated the situation. Those are just a few. Unfortunately for Eagle, DL Connection has steadily grown at JFK . . .ASA has a base there. AA left the door open for this.

PJ


User currently offlineNewkai From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 330 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3271 times:

Delta (using BEX) used to have BUF/ROC/SYR to JFK and LGA flights. JFK went first, then LGA.

User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3256 times:

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 1):
I personally feel PVD could support and 1x daily JFK flight timed for the evening Int'l push too...

Every current station that sees DL service to JFK wants their flights timed to meet the International push. Unfortunately DL can usually only provide it one direction (inbound) as 3 PM - 7 PM requires slots or use of your exemptions and DL doesn't have enough for use of every market. Any new JFK service would likely just be for O&D traffic and timed around that 4 hour window.



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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3414 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3236 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 6):
Every current station that sees DL service to JFK wants their flights timed to meet the International push. Unfortunately DL can usually only provide it one direction (inbound) as 3 PM - 7 PM requires slots or use of your exemptions and DL doesn't have enough for use of every market. Any new JFK service would likely just be for O&D traffic and timed around that 4 hour window

I realize this, but times are tough for new service right now, so I'm pretty much grasping at straws right now!


User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3233 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 6):
Every current station that sees DL service to JFK wants their flights timed to meet the International push. Unfortunately DL can usually only provide it one direction (inbound) as 3 PM - 7 PM requires slots or use of your exemptions and DL doesn't have enough for use of every market. Any new JFK service would likely just be for O&D traffic and timed around that 4 hour window.

Well, what's wrong with a 7:01 PM CRJ departure from JFK? Last I checked, the maximum connecting time on international-to-domestic is 24 hours, not 4.



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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1739 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3214 times:

Quoting NYCAAer (Reply 3):
The only service that remains is BOS, DCA, YUL, RDU, and 1 lone flight to CLE.

You also forgot to add YYZ, YHZ, and STL. AE has actually been growing ever so slighlty at JFK, over the last 2 years or so.



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