Fanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2070 posts, RR: 3 Posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4054 times:
What is your favorite Russian civil aircraft, and why? Mine is the Ilyushin Il-18 turboprop. This nearly 50-year-old design still looks sleek and very dignified and is unlike any other four-engined turboprop (e.g., L-188 Electra, Bristol Britannia, Vickers Viscount and Vanguard, Canadair CL-44). The purpose of this post is to discuss aircraft design and aesthetic appearance rather than the (poor) reputation of any airline or maintenance operation.
The aeroplane has unveiled for us the true face of the earth. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery
DC-9CAPT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3977 times:
In my honest opinion (I'm a product of the Cold War), Russian civil aircraft are not aesthtically pleasing whatsoever. (Military aircraft are a different story as the Backfire, MIG-29, Frogfoot look pretty awesome) Most Russian civil aircraft appear ungainly and poorly designed even to an untrained eye...
With one notable exception (and I am not sure of the civil variant [TU-124??], but I know it existed--it flew Krushchev to the USA in the 60s): The BEAR. If God made a turboprop, this would be it. The four Kuznetsov turboprops counter rotate on swept-back wings, and it cruises at just under the speed of smaller, non-RJ twin- jets (around 450kts). It sits on a very high gear and just flat out looks BAD!
I flew a Convair 580 for several years which I thought was the GTO of Turboprops, but the Bear is the ultimate in Turboprop aircraft and I would love to get some stick time in it.
CV990A From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1441 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3968 times:
My personal favorite is the IL-62. I know it is a rip-off of the VC-10, but I think it looks sleeker than its British counterpart. I know its pretty inferior to many other long-range aircraft in terms of noise, fuel efficiency, etc, but it appears to be better than the IL-86 and IL-96-300, aircraft that were designed to replace it.
Shankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1554 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3970 times:
My favourite that I actually saw was the Tu-134. In my junior days spotting in the 70's used to love seing Aeroflot, LOT, Malev and CSA 134's at Heathrow. Loved the pencil thin cabin, undercarriage fairings in the wing and that huge t-tail. However, best of all was the Aviogenex (Jugoslav charter airline) 134's that used to visit Stansted at about the same time. Occaisonally one would park overnight off the main ramp and close to the carpark fence. Always thought that perspex nose was pretty cool.
The one I always wanted to see but never did was the Tu-114 with the contra-rotating propellers. Photo's always made it look like a real monster. My guess is that it was probably about the size of a 757. Anyone know any better?
Avia_Arg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3968 times:
People can be so critical... I don't know, I love planes, all of them, there is not one I don't like...and russian civil aircraft have always been unique (wether they look like "western" aircraft or not) most of these were built for rugged operations...Siberia comes to mind and personally I wouldn't want to be out there maintaining an a/c in those freezing temperatures...my point, russian aircraft had/have a purpose and it fits the needs of the region at least a/c like the IL-86, YK-40, TU-134, TU-154 etc, etc....
I've flown the TU-154 and I found it just as comfortable as the 727 maybe a notch under but it was great!!!
Here are some of my favorites...
Ilyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3963 times:
Certainly the most elusive and powerful Russian civil airliner was the Tupolev TU-114 "Cleat" (Rossiya) which has been previously mentioned. I laid eyes on one once at Moscow-Sheremet'yevo I in 1993, on static display. The TU-114 could fly SVO-JFK in under 11 hours back in the late '50s, unheard of for any other turboprop airliner. The TU-114 was based on the TU-95 "Bear" bomber, much like the TU-105 "Camel" twin jet was based on the TU-16 "Badger" bomber.
My modern favourite has to be the Ilyushin IL-86/96 series. They LOOK like they are built to last and have a stance no other Western airliner can match!