Rikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1464 posts, RR: 2 Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1495 times:
I was hoping someone might point me in the proper direction to find pictures of Time Air's Twin Otter fleet? I have searched, and cannot find anything. Growing up in Time Air's hometown, I was directly below one of the flightpaths they used when coming in from the North. I always enjoyed watching the Shorts 330 overhead, and later the Dash 7 and Dash 8...all of which I can find photos. Unfortunately, it seems no pictures exist for the Twin Otter, or even more rare..a supposed Fokker F-27 long before they had the F-28.
updated late 1980's livery on Dash 7, also previously wore a bannered "SkyDash" paintscheme, later a blended Pacific Western/Time Air colourscheme (does ANYONE have a pic of that, it was hideous!) and finally, the Canadi>n Partner livery
TIMEAIR From Canada, joined May 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1442 times:
I assume you live in YQL, the best place to go would be the local library and check the archives for a pic of the T.O.. I believe Stubb Ross didn't operate these aircraft for very long, and then got into the Beech 99 aircraft.
As for the F27, that was after taking over Norcanair of YXE in addition to their CV580/F28 fleet.
TIMEAIR From Canada, joined May 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1426 times:
You can see the old SD360's/cv580'S at Springbank west of YYC, although not in flying condition unfortunately. You may want to venture out to the YQL airport, there are still some old KI staff still working there that had parents/relatives that worked for KI, and may have some old memorbilia/pics that you can scan.
TIMEAIR From Canada, joined May 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1418 times:
Yes the F27 had the KI logo on it.
They operated B18, T.O., B99, B90, CitationII, SD330, SD360,DH7,DH8,CV580,CV640,F28,F27 over their lifetime of 32years (1966-1998)
The B99/B90/CitationII were obtained throught the purchase of Southern Frontier Airways of YYC in early-mid 80'S
The F28/F27 through purchase of Norcanair
The DH8-300 C-GKTA was the world's first DH8-300 put into commercial service, and actually flew around the world on a promotional tour for deHavilland/Canadair
Was the largest operator of F28 aircraft in the world with 32 of type operating Canada wide (was actually named Canadian Regional at the time but still opd under KI's O.C.)
Fallingeese From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2097 posts, RR: 20 Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1308 times:
TIMEAIR - Sadly the Convairs out in Springbank are no more. I always wanted to get a good shot of them and never did. I remember driving past them since I was a kid and even after Canadian was gone, it was great seeing the Canadian tail sticking above the bushes.
They must have disappeared early this summer, must have sadly been scrapped.
F27XXX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1295 times:
OK .. WHY ....
DO so many people when referering to Canadian Airlines in print insist on showing the second 'a' as '>' ? Was that not just a stylized 'a' meant to resemble their logo?
HOW do you pronounce '>' anyway? Wasn't it still called (pronounced) Canadian? Or was the name at some point changed to
This whole thing reminds me of when Prince changed his name to a symbol back in the 90s LOL!
I have a fondness for this carrier tho - since its roots were the original CPAir - which was a spinoff of the CP Line of oceanliners. To a fan of both maritime and aviation history, this company had it all! Plus i loved that wild two tone orange on silver livery - it was very daring and ahead of its time.
F27XXX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1192 times:
Quoting CFCUQ (Reply 10): AH my American Friend, in the great white north we are "bilingual"
CANADI>N provided for one livery for both languages, "CANADIAN" and "CANADIEN"
Ah, my Canadi>n friend .. I'm only referring to the titles where the name is spelled out; not the tail logo (which i like as a logo) or the liver itself.
I think a more effective way of getting across the French/English bi-linguality of Canada would have been "Canadian" on one side of the aircraft and "Canadien" on the other. I still don't see how a 'greater-than' mathematical symbol is pronounceable - much less a combination of French/English or an 'a' and an 'e'!
Also .. are French and English the official languages of all the provinces in Canada? And are all Canadians bilingual, as you imply?
Rikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1464 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1112 times:
The ">" is representative of the arrow that Canadian/Canadien used in their tail logo, as CFCUQ stated. Again, as Canada is bilingual, it was a marketing gimmic, so they didn't have to put different spelling on the planes (English/French).
Furthermore, the silver bars were for the five continents they served ( a homage to CP Air/ Canadian Pacific - Canadien Pacifique), and the arrow itself was a simplified version of the Pacific Western Airlines "wing" (PWA bought struggling C.P. to form the basis of Canadi>n.
Canadi>n - original scheme. As the CP Air fleet was much larger and varied than PWA's 737-only fleet, it was easier to modify the "Canadian Pacific - Canadien Pacifique" scheme, as it was relatively new