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Scandal At CDG  
User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2573 times:

22 baggage handlers of CDG have been arrested for thefts of objects.
They are suspected of more than 1000 robberies.

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/050914/5/4l246.html

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User currently offlineGlidepath73 From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 1020 posts, RR: 45
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

And we wonder where our luggage has gone... My goodness... really bad...
I guess there is much more going on at the airports worldwide.

Lets hope RFID will work. Delta will try it soon...
http://www.netzwelt.de/news/66558_1-...paeckortung-mit-spionagechips.html

Sorry, only in German...

Regards,
Patrick



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

Another reason why I always try to travel with hand luggage only. My on-board trolley is big enough to store clothes for one week into it, so I only check luggage when I am away for longer than one week (happens not very often).

Patrick


User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2447 times:

That's why LHR has the nickname "Theif-row" Sad


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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2317 times:

Ha, no wonder my luggage never arrives on the same plane as me when I connect in CDG  Silly .

User currently offlineHBIHLtoEZE From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 281 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

The only airport that kept my baggage more than once is CDG...now I know why  stirthepot 


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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2074 times:

Not really surprising, isn't it? My pity for those people, who are sending valuable items in their non-hand baggage is rather limited. One must be naive to think that there are only angels working on airports.


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User currently offline764 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1962 times:

Well, don't forget that especially in Europe you will on many flights be asked to check your hand luggage at the gate. And unlike the US, where you always get it back at the gate too, you will at many airports receive your hand luggage in the regular reclaim area. This mainly happens if you fly on Lufthansa CityLine. My case conforms to IATA standards and yet I am almost always asked to hand it over at the gate. If that happens, you have NO chance to secure your valuable, because they won't let you carry several individual items into the cabin either. For those people I do feel bad - it has indeed happened to me. My camera was broken from LHR to DUS and on MUC-CDG my phone mysteriously disappeared. Of course Lufthansa denied any responsibility and refused compensation. Like they always do.... As a frequent flyer on United I have to take LH connections regularly and I could go on forever about all the sh.. they have done to me...

User currently offlineAirtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 1557 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1938 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 4):
Ha, no wonder my luggage never arrives on the same plane as me when I connect in CDG



Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 5):
The only airport that kept my baggage more than once is CDG...now I know why

At least your luggage were not robbed...



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User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1812 times:
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I can't say that I'm all that shocked to read this... I know I might be flamed for this, but my first trip through CDG earlier this month was pretty surprising for me...

I find it difficult to believe that such an important airport is so inefficiently run. Get off a plane to wait for a bus to wait for another bus to wait for another bus to board your plane? I was never certain of where these buses were going, whether I was in security or not, etc.

If the passenger flow at CDG is so terribly disorganized, then I can only imagine the baggage security status. Our bags made it, and I was releived, but I have my next trek through that Rube Goldberg machine called CDG on Saturday... so we'll see if my bags make it.


User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1639 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 2):
. My on-board trolley is big enough to store

Try that on CI, I had a carry on that meets US rules, but some Asian carriers have a really tiny guideline thing and you can get past counter fine then once your at gate, there is one person waiting to see for big carry ons and
there goes my rollers! and its annoying especially as a non-rev and I
am not planning to go through immigration.



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User currently offlineOzglobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1585 times:

Quoting Flashmeister (Reply 9):
I can't say that I'm all that shocked to read this... I know I might be flamed for this, but my first trip through CDG earlier this month was pretty surprising for me...

You won't get flamed by many residents of Paris. You hit the nail on the head, it is not the design, nor scalability of CDG that is the problem, but he diabolical management of ADP. Do a search and read some entertaining threads!
Add to this the fact that AF has to manage without T2E and the lack of inter-terminal train and you get buses!!! The latter will be fixed next year, but T2E will take sometime. That leaves the question of ADP. How about we round up a peoples army and drive them into exile on a French offshore territory: La Reunion for example?

Mind you, there are some pretty scary airports in the US too....



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User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1550 times:

Quoting Glidepath73 (Reply 1):
Lets hope RFID will work. Delta will try it soon...

RFID is something that will bring us directly into a police state. Let's hope it'll be illegal soon.


User currently offlineFrequentflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 736 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

Quoting Ozglobal (Reply 11):
Quoting Flashmeister (Reply 9):
I can't say that I'm all that shocked to read this... I know I might be flamed for this, but my first trip through CDG earlier this month was pretty surprising for me...

You won't get flamed by many residents of Paris. You hit the nail on the head, it is not the design, nor scalability of CDG that is the problem, but he diabolical management of ADP

You won't get flamed by me neither.

CDG sucks mainly because of ADP. I have issues with T1 design however. This being said, I heard last month or so that they are to reorganize and privatize the ADP thing. I am positive AF loses clientele because of ADP. And others. Because when there is a choce, they'll transfer elsewhere in Europe and I am a good example, even when I go to the province in France.



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