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Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5802 posts, RR: 47
Posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3357 times:

Here's Boeing order summary

Interesting to note that LOTs 787 order is finalized!
4 777 UFOs were added
Jade's 744F orders are listed
2 737 cancellations (wonder who from?

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm


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User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3304 times:

To me it's the total (605 so far this year, including 34 777s and 118 787s) that is the most striking aspect.

[Edited 2005-09-15 17:37:06]


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User currently offlineEha From France, joined May 2005, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3206 times:

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 1):
To me it's the total (605 so far this year, including 34 777s and 118 787s) that is the most striking aspect.

[Edited 2005-09-15 17:37:06]

Well corrected!

The striking number is the outstanding number of 737 ordered.

Which tends to be huge each great year (2000 the same). I am not impressed by 777 numbers. Overall, 777+787 numbers will be what the 747+757+767+777 have been the past 6 years maybe less. Which shows that both competition and 777/787 have killed the 747-757-767.

E.


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2750 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
2 737 cancellations (wonder who from?

Judging by the timing, I would suggest LOT's 2 737-800's that have been on the books for years, constantly deferred.

Quoting Eha (Reply 2):
I am not impressed by 777 numbers.

Then you're probably the only one among those who follow commercial aviation. As already stated, Boeing has netted 34 firm orders this year. In addition, airlines have announced pending orders for 59 more. That does not even include the 18 that Air Canada was to buy this year. The firm/pending total of 94 frames would make 2005 the 777's best sales year since 2000 (117), and the third best ever (1995 saw 101 net orders).

However, there remains a handful of large campaigns still pending, that Boeing could net more orders from (I'm not one to jump the gun, but EK and QF both appear to be near significant 777 orders). With these pending campaigns, Boeing could easily surpass the 2000 total.


Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

They have got be close to their record, does anyone remember what it was? I thought it was in the mid 600's?

User currently offlineTravellin'man From United States of America, joined May 2001, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

And when you consider that the US carriers, who in the past have constituted what I would guess is the largest single market, are posting some of the smaller orders (number-wise), in other words not contributing sustantially to this huge pile of orders, given their financial situations, it makes the total amount of orders that much more impressive.


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User currently offlineRaggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 1005 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3070 times:

maybe these four 777s are for Biman?

raggi



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

there is an update for 10 unidentified 777 orders...are those for previously mentioned (on this thread) 9W orders or some carrier/leasing company completely new?

on a side note, its nice to see the 747 get 19 new net orders for this year..this should keep the line long enough for the 747ADV, which I think is coming.. yes

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm



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User currently offlineMeafly From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2901 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 3):
However, there remains a handful of large campaigns still pending, that Boeing could net more orders from (I'm not one to jump the gun, but EK and QF both appear to be near significant 777 orders). With these pending campaigns, Boeing could easily surpass the 2000 total

You are spot on...an EK order alone could easily make this a record 777 year. I dare say there are additional pending orders that could add to this. There's been significant interest in both the 777F and the 777LR.

Killed the 747? Boeing is showing 19 net orders this year and (based on comments from at least 2 airlines) positioned to launch the 747ADV before year's end.

Can we get a reality check here?


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2858 times:

Quoting Eha (Reply 2):
Which shows that both competition and 777/787 have killed the 747-757-767.

I find 19 B747 orders more striking than 34 B777 orders.

Airbus killed the B757 and B767 before the B787 would have killed the B767. That's why Boeing is building the B787 now rather than earlier or later.

That's why A & B will not likely replace the A320 and B737NG while both still enjoy large backlogs.


User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2410 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2843 times:

The 737s will break the record this year. It, at the moment, has 434 orders, and more than 3 months to go. In 3 months, they can easily get 6-7 more orders. It has NEVER done this well! The closest is year 1996 with 440 orders for the 737.

User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4217 posts, RR: 89
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2728 times:
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Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 10):
The 737s will break the record this year. It, at the moment, has 434 orders, and more than 3 months to go. In 3 months, they can easily get 6-7 more orders

Agree, Boeing currently have 119 737s "pending" from 7 different carriers. CZ alone, once they firm their order, can take them over that total.

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2663 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 11):
Agree, Boeing currently have 119 737s "pending" from 7 different carriers.

Does that include the 18 for Garuda?


User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4217 posts, RR: 89
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2654 times:
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Quoting Zvezda (Reply 12):
Does that include the 18 for Garuda?

No sir, it does not. Garuda appear to be leasing these so I feel those 18 may not be "new" but re-affirmation of a previous order that was deferred by GA.

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineIntothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2629 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 9):
I find 19 B747 orders more striking than 34 B777 orders.

Same here, superb new for the Boeing 747. That will keep the production line of the 747 busy until the 747ADV comes out, which it hopefully will.

Cheers, Konstantin G.


User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2600 times:

Now we have this addition as well!!

Indonesia Garuda Signs $2 Billion Fleet Upgrade Deal With Boeing

Friday September 16, 4:15 AM EDT

JAKARTA -(Dow Jones)- Indonesia's flag carrier PT Garuda Indonesia and U.S. aircraft manufacturer Boeing Co. (BA) (BA) signed a $2 billion deal Thursday to modernize the company's fleet, Garuda said in a statement Friday.

Under the deal, Garuda will operate 18 Boeing (BA) 737-800s by 2006 to replace its five 737-400s. It will also operate 10 Boeing (BA) 787 Dreamliners by 2013, the statement said.

Garuda said the move to operate the Dreamliner is in line with the company's aim to modernize its fleet to make it more competitive and cost-efficient.

The statement said the Dreamliner will use 20% less fuel than today's comparable aircraft, while providing up to 45% more cargo revenue capacity.


The 787 family will carry passengers on routes between 3,500 and 8,500 nautical miles (6,500 to 16,000 kilometers), Garuda said, without elaborating.

Boeing (BA) plans to debut the Dreamliner with a maiden flight scheduled for 2007, with certification, delivery and entry into service in 2008.

The carrier currently operates 57 Boeing (BA) aircraft of various models.


Way to go Boeing, they are truly having a banner year!

Does anyone know the record for the single biggest year of orders for Boeing?



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User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6671 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

Thanks for the info on Garuda! I wonder what that means for their 777 order ?

The777Man



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