Eha From France, joined May 2005, 211 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2121 times:
Quoting NAV20 (Reply 1): To me it's the total (605 so far this year, including 34 777s and 118 787s) that is the most striking aspect.
[Edited 2005-09-15 17:37:06]
Well corrected!
The striking number is the outstanding number of 737 ordered.
Which tends to be huge each great year (2000 the same). I am not impressed by 777 numbers. Overall, 777+787 numbers will be what the 747+757+767+777 have been the past 6 years maybe less. Which shows that both competition and 777/787 have killed the 747-757-767.
Hamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2657 posts, RR: 59 Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2038 times:
Judging by the timing, I would suggest LOT's 2 737-800's that have been on the books for years, constantly deferred.
Quoting Eha (Reply 2): I am not impressed by 777 numbers.
Then you're probably the only one among those who follow commercial aviation. As already stated, Boeing has netted 34firm orders this year. In addition, airlines have announced pending orders for 59 more. That does not even include the 18 that Air Canada was to buy this year. The firm/pending total of 94 frames would make 2005 the 777's best sales year since 2000 (117), and the third best ever (1995 saw 101 net orders).
However, there remains a handful of large campaigns still pending, that Boeing could net more orders from (I'm not one to jump the gun, but EK and QF both appear to be near significant 777 orders). With these pending campaigns, Boeing could easily surpass the 2000 total.
AirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2529 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2031 times:
They have got be close to their record, does anyone remember what it was? I thought it was in the mid 600's?
Travellin'man From United States of America, joined May 2001, 530 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1997 times:
And when you consider that the US carriers, who in the past have constituted what I would guess is the largest single market, are posting some of the smaller orders (number-wise), in other words not contributing sustantially to this huge pile of orders, given their financial situations, it makes the total amount of orders that much more impressive.
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Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1834 times:
there is an update for 10 unidentified 777 orders...are those for previously mentioned (on this thread) 9W orders or some carrier/leasing company completely new?
on a side note, its nice to see the 747 get 19 new net orders for this year..this should keep the line long enough for the 747ADV, which I think is coming.. yes
Meafly From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 30 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1816 times:
Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 3): However, there remains a handful of large campaigns still pending, that Boeing could net more orders from (I'm not one to jump the gun, but EK and QF both appear to be near significant 777 orders). With these pending campaigns, Boeing could easily surpass the 2000 total
You are spot on...an EK order alone could easily make this a record 777 year. I dare say there are additional pending orders that could add to this. There's been significant interest in both the 777F and the 777LR.
Killed the 747? Boeing is showing 19 net orders this year and (based on comments from at least 2 airlines) positioned to launch the 747ADV before year's end.
Kaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2208 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1758 times:
The 737s will break the record this year. It, at the moment, has 434 orders, and more than 3 months to go. In 3 months, they can easily get 6-7 more orders. It has NEVER done this well! The closest is year 1996 with 440 orders for the 737.
PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 3987 posts, RR: 93 Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1643 times:
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Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 10): The 737s will break the record this year. It, at the moment, has 434 orders, and more than 3 months to go. In 3 months, they can easily get 6-7 more orders
Agree, Boeing currently have 119 737s "pending" from 7 different carriers. CZ alone, once they firm their order, can take them over that total.
PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 3987 posts, RR: 93 Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1569 times:
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Quoting Zvezda (Reply 12): Does that include the 18 for Garuda?
No sir, it does not. Garuda appear to be leasing these so I feel those 18 may not be "new" but re-affirmation of a previous order that was deferred by GA.
DAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1515 times:
Now we have this addition as well!!
Indonesia Garuda Signs $2 Billion Fleet Upgrade Deal With Boeing
Friday September 16, 4:15 AM EDT
JAKARTA -(Dow Jones)- Indonesia's flag carrier PT Garuda Indonesia and U.S. aircraft manufacturer Boeing Co. (BA) (BA) signed a $2 billion deal Thursday to modernize the company's fleet, Garuda said in a statement Friday.
Under the deal, Garuda will operate 18 Boeing (BA) 737-800s by 2006 to replace its five 737-400s. It will also operate 10 Boeing (BA) 787 Dreamliners by 2013, the statement said.
Garuda said the move to operate the Dreamliner is in line with the company's aim to modernize its fleet to make it more competitive and cost-efficient.
The statement said the Dreamliner will use 20% less fuel than today's comparable aircraft, while providing up to 45% more cargo revenue capacity.
The 787 family will carry passengers on routes between 3,500 and 8,500 nautical miles (6,500 to 16,000 kilometers), Garuda said, without elaborating.
Boeing (BA) plans to debut the Dreamliner with a maiden flight scheduled for 2007, with certification, delivery and entry into service in 2008.
The carrier currently operates 57 Boeing (BA) aircraft of various models.
Way to go Boeing, they are truly having a banner year!
Does anyone know the record for the single biggest year of orders for Boeing?
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6088 posts, RR: 56 Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1479 times:
Thanks for the info on Garuda! I wonder what that means for their 777 order ?
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