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Orders That Were Never Fulfilled  
User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

What are some orders from various airlines over the years that were never filled? I'm not talking about something like reducing an order of 737's from-say 50 to 40. I'm talking about airline/aircraft combinations that for whatever reason never came to pass.

Here are some that I recall off the top of my head:

Alaska: MD-90
Western Pacific: 73G/738
Western: 767
America West: A300/767
Pan Am: A320
Air Florida: 757
Valujet: 717 (yes, I KNOW that Valujet is now AirTran...but "Critter" was dead and buried by the time the 717 was rolled out)

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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4547 times:

Sabena's full A32S fleet and A343E orders

User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4528 times:

SR A340-600s, CO A340-300s


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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5011 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4529 times:

Quoting Matt D (Thread starter):


Pan Am: A320



Correct, yet not. Never delivered to PA, true. But the order was taken over by Braniff 2 and finally America West. I believe it was not only the delivery positions, but the order itself.

[Edited 2005-09-15 22:34:15]

That's may not meet your criteria but TWA had 2: A330, cancelled and changed to A318, cancelled by AA before any deliveries were made.

[Edited 2005-09-15 22:38:27]


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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4505 times:

British Caledonian, the launch customer for the McDonnell Douglas MD-11. Cancelled when BA took them over.

[Edited 2005-09-15 22:35:38]

User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4463 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 4):
British Caledonian, the launch customer for the McDonnell Douglas MD-11. Cancelled when BA took them over

And British Caledonian was also due to be the launch customer of the A320 but their aircraft was murdered, sorry painted in BA colours. This caused quite a storm for BA who had then never ordered any Airbus aircraft.



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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4450 times:

TWA
50 318/319
22 or so 717s


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4450 times:

Quoting BCAL (Reply 5):

And British Caledonian was also due to be the launch customer of the A320 but their aircraft was murdered, sorry painted in BA colours.

It did look good in BCal livery too! There's a picture of one about somewhere.


User currently offlineCol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2096 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4429 times:

SQ MD11 and ANA 340 come to mind.

Col


User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4438 times:

Singapore Airlines 20 MD 11s order cancelled
JAT 2 MD11s taken over by American Airlines.


User currently offlinePlanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4415 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 7):
Quoting BCAL (Reply 5):

And British Caledonian was also due to be the launch customer of the A320 but their aircraft was murdered, sorry painted in BA colours.

It did look good in BCal livery too! There's a picture of one about somewhere.



User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4390 times:

Well done Plainsailing. I could only find it in black and white. Does anyone know what registration was adopted by BA for that aircraft?

Quote:
G3746 On page six of the publicity booklet, published by the Public Relations Department of British Aerospace, Civil Aircraft Division, at Filton in Bristol, is an explanation of the A320 Airliner, and its design concepts, with diagrams. This unique photograph shows the A320 in its British Caledonian livery. The text and diagram above it explains the benefits of fly-by-wire!




Source http://www.aviationarchive.org.uk/Gpages/html/G3746.html

All aircraft look good in the BCal livery. The blue and gold cheatline and the Golden Lion on the tails really stood out from the crowd. The similar design adopted by Caledonian that went on to become JMC was never as good.



MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineBuckieboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4390 times:

Planesailing,

The photo is cool!

Do you know whether this is G-BUSB; the second revenue A320 (and a 'plane that I flew to Glasgow, nonetheless, earlier this year)?

Cheers

Buckieboy


User currently offlineBlsbls99 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4378 times:

Transbrazil 757
Alaska 767
Air India L1011 (LOI)
Egyptair DC-10-30 (on its way to being signed prior to the American Chicago crash)



319 320 313 722 732 733 735 73G 738 739 742 752 763 772 CRJ D9S ERJ EMB L10 M88 M90 SF3 AT4
User currently onlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3767 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4375 times:

Quite recently, Air Canada (AC) with the 777/787 series!

Rob!  Smile


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4360 times:

Pretty much every airline that ordered the Boeing 2707SST.
Others that come to mind are:
Continental A340s
Northwest A340s
Lufthansa 728Jets
CSA 728Jets


User currently offlineGalapagapop From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 910 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4336 times:

AA L1011 comes to mind.

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4322 times:
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SAA 777s

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User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4312 times:

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 6):
TWA
50 318/319
22 or so 717s

Also the TWA order for A330 never materialized either. They did get several 717's though so don't know if that counts.

[Edited 2005-09-15 23:33:49]

User currently offlineHMUcfm56 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4299 times:

Hi,

the following airlines ordered the concorde...:
Iran Air
CAAC
Qantas
Eastern
Air Canada
Air India
American
Braniff
JAL
Lufthansa
MEA
Sabena
TWA
United
Continental
PanAm

...all orders cancelled!

regards, Michael


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2735 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4360 times:

Quoting Matt D (Thread starter):
What are some orders from various airlines over the years that were never filled?

Oh man! If you look hard enough, there are plenty! Off the top of my head (and I'm sorry, but some will be repeated above):

MD-11:
Singapore Airlines
AOM French
JAT Airways
Air Europe


777:
Euralair
Gulf Air
South African Airways
TransBrasil

A330:
TWA
Continental Airlines

A340:
Swissair
Northwest Airlines
Continental Airlines
All Nippon Airways

747-400:
Alitalia

767:
Monarch (direct purchase)
Continental (-300ER's)
Finnair (unsure if these were direct purchase or lease)

Then there's also those deals that could have been, but for one reason or another, never went from options the airline took out into firm orders:

777:
Virgin Atlantic Airways
Tower Air
Ethiopian (actually, I believe these remain on the books, but with the 787 order, I don't see it happening)

767:
Royal Jordanian
Croatia Airlines
Olympic Airways
Air Ukraine

747-400:
Pakistan Int'l Airlines


Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlineJoelatbsl From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 158 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4280 times:

Sabena did actually get some A319s delivered. Three A319s are soldiering with SN Brussels Airlines these days.

Old LX (Crossair) had ordered heaps of Embraers 170 and 190. Dunno if SWISS will ever get them...

JOEL


User currently offlineWestjet_8 From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 451 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4209 times:

Wardair ordered both MD88's and Fokker 100's before it was bought out.


Canadian. RIP 1999
User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4190 times:

Quoting Matt D (Thread starter):
Valujet: 717 (yes, I KNOW that Valujet is now AirTran...but "Critter" was dead and buried by the time the 717 was rolled out)

The 717 was still the MD 95.

Quoting HMUcfm56 (Reply 19):
Hi,

the following airlines ordered the concorde...:
Iran Air
CAAC
Qantas
Eastern
Air Canada
Air India
American
Braniff
JAL
Lufthansa
MEA
Sabena
TWA
United
Continental
PanAm

...all orders cancelled!

regards, Michael

And, believe it or not, Eastern, Pan Am and Delta that I knew of ordered a bird that never got off the drawing board. That bird of fancy was The Boeing 2707!  airplane 



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User currently offlineFalcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4120 times:

Minerve had also ordered the MD-11 prior to folding.


My definition of cool ? Not trying so hard to be cool.
25 SWISSER : 99% not, so we could put SWISS on the list too! SN had A319/A320/A321 in the fleet at the time of the demise but only 15% of the total order.
26 B2707SST : AIRLINE Concorde B2707 Aer Lingus - 2 Air Canada 4 6 Air France 8* 6 Air India 2 2 Airlift Int. - 1 Alitalia - 6 American 6 6 BOAC 8** 6 Braniff 3 2
27 PanAm_DC10 : Air India's initial 757 order. IIRC got cancelled only months later. Regards, PanAm_DC10
28 AirEuropeUK733 : Air Europe in the UK was, I think, to be the launch customer for the RR Trent powered MD11. They had earmarked the reg's G-MDII and G-OALN. As we all
29 Cornish : Iraqi Airways 4 A310s - stil technically sitting on the order book I think. didn't HP order either A318s or A321s but changed the order over to anothe
30 A300 : Iran Air 1) B747-186B: Only 1 of the 4 delivered due to US sanctions (1980). 2) B737-486: 12 (+options) ordered but not delivered (1993), see #1. 3) A
31 Olympicbis : OA : 3 767-284ERs ordered but then cancelled - replaced by 7 X B737-484s 8 X B737-800s ordered, then replaced by 11 X 737-700s + 4 X 737-800s whic wer
32 HAJFlyer : Zambia Airways: MD 11 (not sure whether it actually ever was a firm order or never got beyond a letter of intent). Their bankruptcy in 1995 ended any
33 WINGS : I believe that Iraqi airways actually has 5x A310-300 on order. Most likely this order will be cancelled or exercised with another make. Regards, Win
34 OHLHD : Lauda ordered once a single 747-400 but it was changed to 777.
35 PHLBOS : Here's an oldie. When NE merged w/DL in 1972, their (NE) order for 3 L1011s were cancelled.
36 Blsbls99 : Trans Caribbean had ordered L-1011s also
37 Sammyk : I thought that was for Indian Airlines not Air India?
38 JoKeR : JAT - 02 - McDonnell Douglas MD-11 (late 1980's), plus two options XX - Airbus A310-300 (late 1980's) 08 - Airbus A319 (1998) Libyan Arab Airlines - X
39 Gr8SlvrFlt : Some further back are quite interesting: United: Martin 303 Capital: Comet, L-188 Electra, Britannia, Convair 880 Eastern: Curtiss CW-20 (C-46) Pan Am
40 ETStar : Add Ethiopian to this. ET had ordered one 340 on lease, had it painted, had crew trained, then cancelled. re: ET, no official announcement has been m
41 Post contains images Aleksandar : Didn't know about those A310-300s, but they were interested in Fokker 100s then. As for orders, JAT ordered two 747SP before switching to DC-10 later
42 Post contains images JoKeR : Apparently as a 722 replacement believe it or not, but in those years it made sense, load factors were good, yields were high, they desperately neede
43 Post contains images Aleksandar : I remember a photo of A310-300 in JAT book from 1987. Looking from that perspective, the plane was ideal for lucrative Middle Eastern routes with goo
44 Imisspiedmont : Alaskaalso had an order for a 747-190.
45 Post contains images PSAjet17 : The original PSA ordered 5 L-1011s from Lockheed in the 70's. After taking delivery of the first two and realizing that they did not fit well into the
46 Konrad : LOT was supposedly one of the launch customers for 737NG. LOT had some 73G/738s on order but didn't buy them in the end (happy with the 734/735 classi
47 Breiz : Well it might be. A320-110 c/n 0006 was flown in February '88 in full British Caledonian colours as G-BRSA. It was promptly repainted to be delivered
48 AirWest : American Eagle and Express Airlines I either had options or orders for the SAAB 2000, I can't remember which.
49 Cruiser : Not to take this thread off-topic, but I have heard that the issues surrounding the deal should be sorted out in the 'near future.' This was posted i
50 DL021 : Were those not taken up by Delta with the merger?
51 Halophila : Did Air Gabon's 744-C, 772 and 763 order ever get cancelled? Vague memory, BUT: Peace Air 744 (Upstart Indonesian Carrier) Air Zaire MD-11 Alaskan 747
52 Planesailing : Details for CN0006 G-BUSB Airbus A320-111 British Caledonian Airways 31.03.1988 ntu G-BRAA G-BUSB Airbus A320-111 British Airways 14.04.1988 mgd Deta
53 Cricket : It was IC not AI, and IC replaced these 12 757's with a large 32 plane A320 order that is still mired in controversy even as the planes get close to
54 Manni : Swisser, Sabena had 3 A321, 6 A320 and 17 A319 in its fleet out of a total 34 ordered. That's nearly 80% of the total order placed.
55 Post contains images TR : SAS and British Caledonian both ordered (or at least signed a Letter of Intent) for MD-11s. The purposed SAS order was for 12 aircraft and I believe B
56 AirEuropeUK733 : Not true - see my rely earlier about Air Europe (reply 28) AE733
57 ClassicLover : Incidentally, Qantas and the DC-10. They placed options on two of the aircraft before deciding to go with the 747SP. Trent.
58 Steman : Back in the early '80s Alitalia was interested in the Boeing 757. I recall a commitment for 20 airframes but I am not sure if a final order was actual
59 Stirling : Before there was the Delta merger, Northeast had entered into talks to merge with Northwest Orient. The annoucement was made in Nov 1969. Northeast o
60 XA744 : B2707SST, your list doesn´t show Aeronaves de México ( Aeroméxico ) ordering the Boeing Supersonic. AM placed an order for two frames in 1965 as a
61 B2707SST : Unfortunately, I can't confirm an AM order. My numbers primarily came from a delivery schedule published in AW&ST in 1970 which lists the 122 orders
62 Stirling : Realized this sentence was not clear. If NW couldn't have the LAX-MIA route, they didn't want NE at all. The CAB called their bluff. And they lost.
63 BlueSky1976 : LOT didn't have any 73Gs on order. They had 2 firm orders for 738 with ten options. LOT was also in talks with Boeing for 777-200ER order in early 19
64 Post contains links and images Zippyjet : I never knew about this uber bird and especially Pan Am's interest as a passenger airliner! The prop version had roughly the same speed as a DC 7 in
65 Mainliner : I thought I read somewhere that American and America West had ordered (or were considering ordering) 747-400's. Can anyone clarify or confirm?
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