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Why Is The Flight Deck Called A "Cockpit"?  
User currently offlineJAM747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 550 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 10 months 21 hours ago) and read 28594 times:

There are some names for some things which seems strange. One of them is the name for the flight deck of an aircraft which is commonly called the 'cockpit'. Does anyone know where it got it's name? I don't think it has anything to do with a male chicken. If it does it that would be rather funny. I am sure there are other names and customs in aviation which seems strange if one does not know the reason or origin. I once started a trend in the tech ops section 'why does the captain sit on the left' and I learn't alot. It would be interesting to hear from knowledgeable a.netters about the origin of 'cockpit'. I am sure I will also hear from a few with a good sense of humor, just keep it clean please. Thanks.

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User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 21 hours ago) and read 28568 times:

Because Box Office was already taken....

 Smile


User currently offlineAirbuff From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 21 hours ago) and read 28559 times:

LOL...

I found this...

Cockpit
The original sense of this term was a pit for fighting cocks. This sense appears around 1587. In 1599, Shakespeare used the term in Henry V to refer to the theater and specifically the area around the stage. The theatrical reference was his invention, obviously playing on the idea of a cockfight being a performance.

The nautical sense arose about 1700. It was not an open area, but rather a compartment below decks. Normally, it would be the sleeping quarters for junior officers, but in battle would be the hospital. This sense appears unrelated to the theatrical sense, and may have been chosen because junior officers lorded over the sailors like roosters or because of a physical resemblance to the space where chickens were kept. The nautical sense transferred to airplanes around 1914 and to cars in the mid-1930s.



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User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1892 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 20 hours ago) and read 28434 times:

It was probably coined by the first pervert flyer.


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User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2232 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 19 hours ago) and read 28300 times:

"Cockpit" male crew. "Box Office" female crew.  Smile



Well.......somebody had to.



I don't understand everything I don't know about this.
User currently offlineAreopagus From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 19 hours ago) and read 28263 times:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0064.shtml

User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 28127 times:

Quoting Airbuff (Reply 2):
Cockpit
The original sense of this term was a pit for fighting cocks.

You ruined my whole day. I always thought it was because that is where you find the Joy-stick Big grin


User currently offlineKaniksu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 28113 times:

Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 4):
"Cockpit" male crew. "Box Office" female crew.  



Well.......somebody had to.

haha. Clever...


User currently offlineEWRATC From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 28055 times:

Cockpit= Life and death decisions made on a daily basis


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User currently offlineHZ747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1654 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 28041 times:
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Quoting EWRATC (Reply 9):
Cockpit= Life and death decisions made on a daily basis

Thanks, Mr. Rain-on-our-parade...

George Carlin does a whole bit about the term cockpit. As you could probably imagine.



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User currently offlineJasYHZ From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 28003 times:

because it's sort of rounded and pointy, like a co&%......


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 27997 times:

Quoting UAcosCS (Reply 6):
He said COCK

"Settle down, Bevis! You're pissing me off, dude!"



User currently offlineSFORunner From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 27987 times:

Concorde '79 -

Isabelle: You pilots are such... men.

Capt. Joe Patroni: Well, they don't call it a "cockpit" for nothing.




User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 27909 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 12):
"Settle down, Bevis! You're pissing me off, dude!"

u stole my thunder... LOL


User currently offlineNooner1972 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 27657 times:

OMG this thread is freaking hilarious!!!

User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 27644 times:

Funniest thread for AGES  rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 


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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5394 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 27617 times:

As Airbuff mentioned, started obviously as a nautical term. Much aviation terminology is actually copied over from nautical - port, startboard, cockpit, 'stowing luggage', boarding, etc.


Jimbo



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User currently offlineSirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 27610 times:

Did someone watch Family Guy this weekend? (there was a cockpit joke in the epsiode).

User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12270 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 27558 times:

From George Carlin on Airplanes:

Quote:
Then they mention carry-on luggage, the first time I heard carry-on, I thought they were going to bring a dead deer on board. I thought what the hell do they need with that. Don't they have those little TV dinners anymore? Then I thought carry-on, carry-on, there's going to be a party. People are going to be carrying on, on the plane. Well, I don't care for that, I like a serious attitude on the plane, especially on the flight deck, which is the latest euphemism for COCKPIT. Can't imagine why they wouldn't want to use a lovely word like COCKPIT, can you? Especially with all those stewardesses going in and out of it all the time.

No naughtier than the rest of the stuff in this thread (but other parts of the web page do get naughtier!).



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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5394 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 27527 times:

She was only a pilot's daughter
but she kept her cockpit clean,



Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 27463 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 17):
As Airbuff mentioned, started obviously as a nautical term. Much aviation terminology is actually copied over from nautical - port, startboard, cockpit, 'stowing luggage', boarding, etc.

What about the sextant?



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User currently offlineRDYNYC From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 65 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 26446 times:

So, is "Flight Deck" the more politically correct/modern day term to be used now?

User currently offlineGlideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1601 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 26416 times:

All you will need to do is listen to the CVR from AF358. Cocks in a Pit going at it.  Smile


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 26415 times:

I was thinking about the same thing watching Family Guy on Sunday.

N


User currently offlineZSOFN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1411 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 26380 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 25):
I was thinking about the same thing watching Family Guy on Sunday

We haven't got the new series over here yet. LOVE the show though - got it all on DVD up to series 3 so far. What's the joke? (Sure it won't be as funny 2nd hand but hey)


25 Arffguy : I thought it was an old term describing where the fuel cocks (selectors) were located. You know-turn the knobs to make the noisy things crank up then
26 Post contains images Bobster2 : I have the exact opposite question: Why is the cockpit called a "flight deck"? By the way, a flight deck is where the best pilots in the world take of
27 Doona : Whoa, did you deduce that all by yourself Mr Bond? And "startboard"? Actually, I read an article on flying the Bristol Britannia in the magazine "Air
28 Post contains images DrDeke : On the subject of the thread (or at least the subject that it has turned into), it was a DISASTER in my high school chemistry class a number of years
29 Post contains images ORDagent : Reminds me of my fav. joke from my AA days: What's the difference between a condom and a cockpit? A condom can only hold one pr*ck at a time!
30 Gigneil : Brian (to girl): Oh yeah Peter does stupid stuff to get himself in trouble all the time. That's why he doesn't work for that airline anymore *cuts to
31 Bond007 : feel free to point out where I accidentally hit the button next to the 'R', after you've got your own grammar/spelling sorted...geesh! ...and I did d
32 Post contains images ZSOFN : Hehe that's awesome
33 AirWillie6475 : Why do the flight attendants run in and out of there all the time?
34 Olympus69 : I wish the moderators wouldn't mess around with reply numbers when they delete a post. It makes it hard to check on quotes. For instance ZSOFN's Reply
35 Ramprat980 : To make sure the cock's feathers aren't ruffled
36 Doona : Goddamnit! Every single time I try to be the language nazi, I bungle it and make mistakes myself. Serves me right. Sorry for that, couldn't resist. W
37 OldAeroGuy : The fighting cock arena is the root of the term for aircraft rather than the nautical usage. If you look at the early airplanes, the pilot's station
38 KhenleyDIA : We need your help in the cockpit. What is it? It is a little room at the front of the plane, but that isn't important right now. -- Okay, Maybe not ex
39 JAM747 : I can only guess from the explanation from the nautical origin of the word and some of the replies to this trend that 'cockpit was used because it is
40 Starlionblue : Sometimes you see cockpit as being something very enclosed (like on an F-16 or the first B-52 prototypes) which Flight Deck is a larger space like on
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