Lowecur From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 585 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8377 times:
One of the pilot websites is reporting that the 190 scope was passed by the AWA MEC and negotiating committee. It needs to go to the membership for ratification. This will keep it out of the hands of the regionals:
Negotiating Committee Update - September 16, 2005
From: Mark Burdick, Negotiating Committee Chairman
To: All AWA Pilots
On behalf of your MEC and Negotiating Committee, I am pleased to announce that the final Transition Agreement passed during today's MEC meeting. The section regarding EMB 190 rates will go out to the membership for a ratification vote in accordance with MEC policy.
On Monday, we will distribute an analysis outlining the protections that have been captured with the agreement. Stay tuned for more details.
Flyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8190 times:
That's pretty cool. It will at least allow our own pilots to fly smaller planes. I think having a 100 seat plane is a good idea. There is too much of a gap between the CR9 and the A319...86 vs. 124 seats.
Jmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3253 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8118 times:
Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 1): There is too much of a gap between the CR9 and the A319...86 vs. 124 seats.
It'll likely be closer to the capacity of the CR9....I would guess it to be a 94 seater (6F/88Y). It will have superior performance to the CR9 and will suit many HP/US routes perfectly. Perhaps IFE could even be added. Here are a handful of potential routes for the US E90:
Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5119 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7828 times:
Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 1): It will at least allow our own pilots to fly smaller planes.
As one of your passengers, let me tell you how much better I feel flying with pilots trained, organized, monitored and managed and paid under a mainline structure. Wouldn't have been before watching the Pinnacle inquiry, but it was pretty clear from that hearing that the depth and capabilities of the organization at a mainline legacy carrier is far different from even the better of the regionals.
Flame away, guys. You didn't sit through that hearing like I did. Even ALPA (especially ALPA) had criticisms of the management and management structure at Pinnacle.
Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4567 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7206 times:
Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 8): Quoting FutureFO (Reply 7):
Actually the 190 is all ready on order for Republic. They are to eventually be based out of FLL for the Carribean routes.
Better find another paintscheme for it, cause if it's owned by Repubic, it ain't gonna be wearing the US colors
Like he said...US Airways and AWA pilots, I believe, have both agreed that the E-190 will be flown as a MAINLINE aircraft. The CRJ-900 can still be outsourced however, for now. AWA ALPA also wants to get the 170 back in house...so we'll see what happens.
M404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2224 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6933 times:
Good news. Like AirRyan I'm wondering about the implications for NW. Am sure this capacity of aircraft is desired and would hope that some of the 50 seaters can be returned or deliveries changed. I'm even wondering if ALPA can get this acft size in their scope will the company then try and have them worked by the cheaper regional ground crews anyway.
Less sarcasm and more thought equal better understanding
ATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6035 times:
The 190 I don't believe is going to be a mainline plane. The RFP that US Airways sent to ZW was for 25 190 or 17 CRJ900 planes. There would have to be a swap, one 190 for a CRJ200...so the fleets wouldn't grow...but I'd much rather see a 190 rather than a CRJ!!
Success is getting what you want...happiness is liking what you get
I'd say he got it from his Dad who is a pilot for MAA...and he is correct. Republic picked up the 3 Embraer 170's that were sitting in San Jose de Campos for Mid Atlantic (deliverys were frozen after the second USAirways bankruptcy) and that has been it so far. No other MAA -170's have transferred over yet. Also, as was said above Republic has NO -190's on order.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"