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Freddie Laker  
User currently offlineDrinkstrolley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3766 times:

Is he dead? If not, what's he doing?

The pic of day made me think of this seeing the tailfin of a Skytrain!

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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3718 times:

No, he's not dead (atleast that's what i heard.) He was living in the USA somewhere.

He restarted Laker Airways in the 90's from the US (i think) and he is still alive.


User currently offlineJmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1315 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3652 times:

He restarted Laker Airways in around 1996, based in the USA flying charters UK-Florida with DC10s. I remember the brochures spoke of seat back IFE etc. That didnt last long, perhaps only through summer 1996.

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He then started Laker Airways Bahamas, again based in the USA, I think flying mainly from Florida to the Bahamas using 727s. I think they ceased trading fairly recently.

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User currently offlineZSOFN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1451 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3647 times:

If it wasn't for him VS would never have existed  Smile  thumbsup 

User currently offlineLuke From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3635 times:

"Sue the b@st*rds!"


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3527 times:

Sir Freddie is still alive and kicking. That man was the true pioneer of low cost air travel, not MOL, despite what he likes to think.

Freddy was a character yet also a gentlman and loved by the public.

I often wonder why Sir Freddie has never written his autobiography. I looked for one recently, expecting him to have written one only to find he has not. All I could find was a few books about him and his airline written by others.

User currently offlinePlanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 819 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3509 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 5):
I often wonder why Sir Freddie has never written his autobiography.

He speaks to Simon Calder in the book "No frills."

He was running an airline flying from Miami to some casino in the Caribbean.

User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3388 times:

Sir Freddie is now 83 and is currently enjoying his retirement in the Bahamas.

Following the collapse of the original Laker Airways (Skytrain) in 1982, Sir Freddie did try to form a new UK airline joining forces with Tiny Rowland of Lonrho but the UK's CAA soon put a stop to this and instead Sir Freddie formed a tour operator, known as Skytrain Holidays, but this only lasted a season. In January 1985, Laker sued 12 airlines, including BA, BCal, PanAm and TWA, claiming that they conspired to put him out of business. Less than seven months later he received a private settlement worth £8 million from BA and others including BCal whose contribution was £3 million. Under the settlement, all Laker creditors were paid in full. The quick settlement was probably a result of the UK Government's decision to privatise BA that could not go ahead with litigation pending in the background.

In the early 1990s, Laker's attempts to relaunch an airline got off the ground when he became joint-owner of Laker Airways (Bahamas) Ltd. The airline leased a handful of DC10s and commenced a scheduled service between Miami and London Gatwick. Unlike the Skytrain service, the newly launched Laker Airways aimed for the up-market passengers offering an enhanced product. The Miami-LGW service was not successful, and following losses reported to be $45,000 a day, Laker suspended the service and concentrated on negotiating long-term contracts with cruise liners to operate charter flights to carry passengers to the Florida ports. For several years Laker filled almost 60 per cent of its capacity through deals with cruise operators. In later years, the Laker flights were used primarily to carry passengers between Florida and the Bahamas, principally on behalf of the Bahamian Casinos. However, in August 2004 Laker Airways (Bahamas) suspended all services.

Sir Freddie was a pioneer of low-cost travel. Against heavily stacked odds, he took on the CAA, FAA, IATA, the major airlines, the UK and US Governments, Cabinet Ministers and even when they refused to grant him permission, he still carried on with his battles. He paved the way for the likes of MOL, Stelios etc. Unlike the brashful and publicity-seeking Branson, Sir Freddie was a highly respected businessman and much loved by the public. His employees felt privileged to work for him and even Margaret Thatcher admired him. When the original Laker Airways collapsed, the public rallied to his aid by pouring donations into the "Save Sir Freddie" fund, but the money was returned to the originators.

In the years preceding his retirement, Sir Freddie did regularly lecture and advise on aviation matters. He is well known for his famous quote to today's entrepreneurs Branson and Haji-Ioannou to "sue the bastards". Interestingly, as a tribute to Laker Airways, VS named one of their 747s as 'The Spirit of Sir Freddie'.

Sir Freddie did not attend the recent memorial service of the late Lord King, his biggest adversary who was probably instrumental in the collapse of the original Laker Airways.

It would be good if Sir Freddie was now writing his autobiography, but I believe that as part of the private settlement with BA etc, this cannot be published during his lifetime.

It would be interesting to start a thread "What really caused the collapse of Laker Airways (UK)". However, I would think this would only interest a.net members who are now in their late 30s plus.

[Edited 2005-09-20 11:37:33]

MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3373 times:

In the mid-1990s (I flew Laker in 1997) Laker operated MAN and LGW to MCO, I recall flying on 'Endeavour' and 'Columbia' MAN-MCO-MAN (with a 9hour delay on the return!). The service was excellent; a shame it didn't last.

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