Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4358 posts, RR: 6 Posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2818 times:
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UA operates 3 daily EMB-120's from LAS to both Palm Springs and Fresno, what is the reason behind that? There isn't anything to connect to other than another UA hub. I'm sure it's mostly O&D, but it just seems weird UA would operate that. They also have HP (Mesa) and Allegiant on LAS-FAT to compete with.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5789 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2623 times:
I believe under the UAX contract, Skywest is allowed to fly a small percentage of UAX flights (under 10% comes to mind) as "at risk" meaning UA won't subsidize the service. FAT-LAS and PSP-LAS are part of the "at risk" service". So Skywest is seeing a financial benefit by operating these flights otherwise they would be gone.
FAT-LAS was a DLConnection route in the past IIRC. It converted to UAX as Delta pulled down the LAX operation.
FAT-LAS has almost always been a popular route, the drive can be 5-6 hours on a good day, 7 or 8 hours when traffic is bad on I-15 which is every weekend. It has been flown by various airlines including the current operators as well as the old Air21, several scheduled charter operators, etc. The UAX flights are popular as a way for Fresno area UA frequent fliers to pick up some easy miles.
FAT and PSP both also host Mx hangars for Skywest. I'm not sure how the work is split these days, we seem to see more CRJs at the FAT hangar these days.
LAS may allow a little swapping of aircraft to Maintenance but don't forget the only other route Skywest has into LAS is from St. George, which only sees a few DLConn flights from SLC each day so not much swapping can occur from that direction.
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Boeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2596 times:
Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 7): I believe under the UAX contract, Skywest is allowed to fly a small percentage of UAX flights (under 10% comes to mind) as "at risk" meaning UA won't subsidize the service. FAT-LAS and PSP-LAS are part of the "at risk" service". So Skywest is seeing a financial benefit by operating these flights otherwise they would be gone.
This is 100% accurate. You can get UA or DL miles on them, I beleive they only show up in the UA schedule. When UA and OO renegotiated there was a provision to add flights on their own up to the 10% level.
SHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2300 times:
Quoting Ralgha (Reply 19): Mesa is considered by most pilots in the industry to be the scourge of the industry.
Mesa is also considered by most customers in the industry to be the scourge of the industry, especially for those America West, United, or US Airways fliers, who are dumb enough to, time and time again, be left stranded in (insert hub city here) because they can't seem to keep their flights relatively close to on-time.
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Vegasplanes From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 778 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2208 times:
Quoting Iowaman (Thread starter):
Not so for at least a year and a half;however, we still do a LAS-SLC roundtrip once a day or so.
Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 10): got to sleep in this morning so I'm still waking up but I thought those SLC flights were now CR7s flown by the "other guys". I don't see any Skywest SLC-LAS in my current schedule.
For 9/29/05 for example, DL shows 8 n/s LAS-SLC, 2 CRJ7, 1 757, 1 738, 2 733, 2 MD90. Looks like a lot more than 1 flight per day.