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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12677 times:

BBC have a report on their website about a Luxury Airline starting services between London Stansted and New York. Can anyone guess who it is?

An all-business class luxury air service is to be launched between Essex and the USA.
New American carrier Maxjet Airways will begin services between Stansted Airport and New York on 1 November.


The airline will be operating one flight every day apart from Saturday and fares will start at £599 one way, excluding taxes.

All passengers will get business class seats and will have pre-take off drinks and multi-course meals.


Aww, i was looking forward to flying them aswell  Sad

Thanks
Mike

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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12622 times:

Just to add, if you look at their website www.maxjet.com you can see the booking area is ready.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26146 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12605 times:

Its EOS, offering the luxury service.

http://www.eosairlines.com

48 seat B757s


Maxjet is a LCC product using B762.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12589 times:

This is not going to work out IMO. Travellers, who can afford/ are paid to fly in C or F will choose one of the large network carriers due to their large number of available destinations beyond STN and NYC and due to the frequent flyer perks, or will charter a biz-jet to get across the pond individually.


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineNASOCEANA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12589 times:

Same principal as PrivatAir service.

"PrivatAir is a leading international business aviation group with headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland. The company has been in operation for 25 years and employs over 400 people. PrivatAir operates a Corporate Shuttle on behalf of Lufthansa on routes from various German airports to destinations in the US. For this the airline uses a fleet of Airbus A319 Long Range and Boeing Business Jets (B737-700). These aircraft are equipped with 48 business-class seats in a two-by-two configuration. This was the world's first intercontinental business-class-only scheduled airline service."

Should be top notch service!

PrivatAir



B777 greatest Airliner ever built!
User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12552 times:

This gets weirder by the minute.

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 2):

I looked at your link and had a look at the route map. That is the same route as Maxjet has on their website.

If you go to www.maxjet.com, enter information into the Booking System and it will come up with prices. They start at £599 and it says the route is operated by a B767 a/c.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3958 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 12362 times:

Is everyone ignoring Laxintl's post?

It's EOS that's starting luxury service with 757's, not Maxjet (who are a low-cost 767 operator).

I think the BBC has got them mixed up.

RK


User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 12337 times:

Rob, read this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/4262196.stm

Take note of the price set their and the airline name.

Now go to www.maxjet.com and enter in details for a flight leaving in march next year. Notice how the prices start at the price quoted from BBC News?

To me, both stories add up. You and Laxintl are correct that EOS are starting services, maybe this is a Codeshare using the Maxjet aircraft because during the booking process where you see the prices it actually says it is a B767 used on that flight.

Thanks
Mike

EDIT: Read the very last paragraph in the BBC story, it mentions EOS as another airline interested in Stansted.

[Edited 2005-09-20 12:29:53]

User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 12309 times:

Quoting RobK (Reply 6):
It's EOS that's starting luxury service with 757's, not Maxjet (who are a low-cost 767 operator).

I think the BBC has got them mixed up.

I think you need to do some research. Maxjet clearly says that it's operating an all-business 767 with 102 seats.


User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1909 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 12279 times:

Now this has changed ... they were earlier advertising a two-class service. They've changed their business plan ...


- I am LN-MOW, and I approve this message.
User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 12263 times:

So all those 0.99 fare Ryanair passengers at STN will be transfering from FR to a all-business class transatlantic carrier? Big grin

User currently offlineXpfg From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 634 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 12249 times:

Ha,
Anyone notice they only accept American Express at the moment?


User currently offlineXpfg From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 634 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 12226 times:

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[Edited 2005-09-20 12:57:50]

User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 12217 times:

Quoting LN-MOW (Reply 9):

Yer, I read that earlier. Infact, I posted something about Maxjet 1 month ago and there is an employee of the company in A.net.

Quoting Xpfg (Reply 11):

Hmm, that is kinda odd for PAX departing the UK. Although, this won't really be a leisure airline will it?

It'll be companies bookign their employees on these flights therefore because most companies use American Express then they will only accept that.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineZSOFN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1413 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 12191 times:

Surely the fact they'll be operating from STN and not LHR or maybe LTN instead. I suppose slots etc dictated that, but it seems less than ideal.

I'd rather go premium econ out of LHR.


User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 12164 times:

Quoting ZSOFN (Reply 14):

I agree, sorry guys but I don't think Maxjet will be around long.

Prices would be roughly the same when flying out of LHR or maybe even LGW.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineNWOrientDC10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1404 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 11961 times:
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There was a luxury airline in the '80's called Regent Air which operated trans-con flights here in the states. Regent Air used 727-100's.

I would like to have flown with them but couldn't afford it.

Oh well ...

Good day

Russell



Things aren't always as they seem
User currently offlineBlooBirdie From Lesotho, joined Sep 2003, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 11925 times:

Quoting ZSOFN (Reply 14):
I'd rather go premium econ out of LHR

It must be aimed at people in the City - a quick(ish) 45min direct trip from Liverpool Street to STN as against crawling through Central London to LHR!


User currently offlineOURBOEING From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11882 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 2):
Maxjet is a LCC product using B762.

Are these Ex-TWA 767's?

OURBOEING


User currently offlineJFKviaPHX From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11838 times:

The EOS aircraft is being fine tuned at JFK now. It's sitting in the back of T4. Very nice color scheme. I would believe they are talking about this airline.

User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11709 times:

So the EOS B752 is at the back of JFK, but has anyone got a clue where the Maxjet B767 is?

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineANA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 294 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 11637 times:

There are several points here in no order whatsoever.

1) Both EOS and Maxjet have their FAA approvals.
2) Maxjet is out of T1 EOS out of T4
3) There is an article in WSJ today about them both
4) STN has its own unique catchment, so will be preferable to some people, in fact a lot of people, over LHR.
5) I think they will need to rely heavily on US-originating traffic, as opposed to UK
6) What about loyalty schemes?
7) Point to note, they are both operating expensive aircraft with high maintenance, PrivatAir uses 737/319 long range versions - about 30% cheaper to operate.
8) when you're competing against BA Club and VS UCS your seats had better be good. The pics of EOS in WSJ look like you'll be getting hospital bed with a plastic wrap-around - it is gross.
9) Maxjet has 60inch pitch, so yes, 102 on 767, 72 on 757, which may catch some (leisure?) premium econ pax (small market anyway) but who is going to give up their bizz lie-flat seat paid for by their company?
10) Maxjet have changed their bizz plan (from someone earlier)
11) Privat have the backing of major airlines AND they do not sell tickets themsleves.
12) Orion, a lot of US pax travel bizz over the pond and then pick up a 99pence flight - it is totally possible people will self-interlign, just not enough for these airlines.
13) STN is a great airport, if you don't know it. Entrance to gate in 8 mins if you're quick (I've done it!). easy access for the City and Cambs and all those catchment areas, and you can avoid the lo-cost pax.
14) oh, and schedules, one flight a day? Market share on this route is determined by frequency, not number of seats on your aircraft. One flight a day - not looking good.

well, that's all, i think the bizz-only concept works, but i think these guys have got the model wrong.

ANA


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 11564 times:

Quoting BlooBirdie (Reply 17):
It must be aimed at people in the City - a quick(ish) 45min direct trip from Liverpool Street to STN as against crawling through Central London to LHR!

LHR is 15 min from paddington station  Wink or 40 min from central london (Underground)



Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4106 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 11476 times:

I don't see these airlines surviving, there's too much wrong, schedules, aircraft etc,

Sam



Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17823 posts, RR: 46
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 11460 times:

"The airline will be operating one flight every day apart from Saturday and fares will start at £599 one way, excluding taxes. "

The spokesperson also added that they expect to run out of cash by the end of the year.  Silly



E pur si muove -Galileo
25 Babybus : I think nearly every year there is talk of a luxury, all business class, airline on the LON-NYC route and every time they fail to materialize. This ai
26 StanstedFlyer : Well at least we're getting a direct NYC service from STN, not that I'd fly for that price. But for catchment area, Stansted is good. All of East Angl
27 Dogfighter2111 : Well, they may to well with businessmen etc. but i seariosly doubt they will last. Thanks Mike
28 Post contains links HiJazzey : Sounds like al-Khayala service by NAS. They operate all-business A319 (44 passengers) between Riyadh and Jeddah + charter flights to other destination
29 Tockeyhockey : they are operating both 767s and 757s. from the website: For comfort, reliability and efficiency, MAXjet selected the Boeing 767 and 757 aircraft for
30 Midway2airtran : I made a visit up to their headquarters this past Spring. They practically sold me on their product and all seem bound and determined to make their ma
31 Dogfighter2111 : That is good, maybe they will introduce LCC flights later on next year. They are planning on using B757's aswell. Thanks Mike
32 Post contains links N62NA : Well, I wonder what this means for Primaris? http://www.primarisairlines.com/index.aspx
33 Post contains images Dogfighter2111 : Haha, Looks like there are more Full Business Class airlines starting up now. That is the 3rd I have heard about today, anyone got anymore ? Thanks Mi
34 SATX : 1. I would be very interested in Y class across the pond at under US$500. 2. I would be very interested in B class across the pond at under US$1,000.
35 Dogfighter2111 : I think there is only 1 LCC that flys across the pond and that is Zoom. Wrong Country, but they operate from the UK and you can catch a connection. I
36 Post contains links SATX : A little background information I came across... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005/07/19/AR2005071901764_pf.html Maxjet also has scaled back
37 Post contains links Dogfighter2111 : Hmm, that is odd. Here is what i found: http://www.maxjet.net/max_aircraft.php For comfort, reliability and efficiency, MAXjet selected the Boeing 767
38 LegendDC9 : A bit of math... Jet A at $2.20/gallon, approximatly 18,000 gallons one way JFK-LON (that's about 120,000 pounds or so for a 767 across the pond, plea
39 F27XXX : MaxJet has to change that livery - it looks just like ValuJet (minus "Critter", of course! Light blue, to me anyway, screams "Leisure market ... cattl
40 Dogfighter2111 : That's what most people thought, but it is a nice livery. Atleast they are making a small profit, they will make atleast $ 2,280,000 on average per m
41 SATX : "New York – London starting from $779 / £599 * each way" https://www.maxjet.com/default.do?requestPage=newsearch.page
42 LegendDC9 : I am not sure where you got that number. No airline in the world makes $2mil profit a month off of one aircraft. Even at a $1000/ticket I can't see w
43 Geo772 : Personally I would rather stick to full service carriers. It's a nice idea having an all business class airline but I think it really is just a pipedr
44 Post contains links and images Malaysia : Ill stick to this dreamliner 767 service. but it never would materalize...
45 Dogfighter2111 : Sorry, I made a very small calculational error. That is rather nice, I bet that pic was taken in FS9 using the PoSky B767. Thanks Mike
46 Skibum9 : It is an ex-Quantas 767
47 Ppostro : Anyone heard the latest on Primaris Airlines??? Seems they have gone all quiet for a while.
48 Malaysia : Yes I did the textures once the new version came out, I just couldnt resist. have yet to upload it to avsim or something. it seems the new 762 model
49 Dogfighter2111 : Well, atleast Maxjet are getting a well maintained aircraft. Thansk Mike
50 Post contains images Dogfighter2111 : No, there are some tech problems to sort out. Great Job you did their Thanks Mike
51 JFKviaPHX : LON-JFK takes around 11,000 gallons or so. For 18,000 gallons you can go from LON-LAX. That is for a 767. A 744 takes around 18-22,000 and a 777 take
52 Suv : Here is the flight as it appears in Sabre availability today 9/20 for the flight STN/JFK 1NOV. 01NOV TUE STN/Z JFK/EST-5 1MY 101 J4 C4 D4 I4 Z4 STNJFK
53 1MillionFlyer : according to their website, every seat is a Business class product. I guess that is Super Discounted Business. CO was doing restricted C to Europe 2
54 Suv : I guess if you don't book early, you pay substantially higher, One-way C class: $1752.55 USD One-way J class: $1934.55 USD Suv
55 Dogfighter2111 : That's true, when I looked I entered details for next March. They appear low-cost with their prices but aren't really. Thanks Mike
56 1MillionFlyer : They are 50% discount over discounted LON-NYC fares of 3000 USD and much better than the 8000 USD standard C class on that route. Why are you saying
57 Dogfighter2111 : Well, The prices are still high for the average holidaymaker, this is set at business men. and the airline has an all business interior which isn't ty
58 Carfield : Well Maxjet may work at the end... who knows? It is selling at $770 (+tax) now one way from NYC to STN, and when I price AA in Y, it is selling $750 +
59 Backfire : Yes, but London's financial district isn't in the centre - it's in the east, and a long way from both Paddington and even Central London. Try getting
60 Traveler_7 : Was there a similar idea a few years ago, but with about twice higher ticket prices and small separate terminal? If I am not mistaken the name of the
61 Dogfighter2111 : I agree, it'd be easier to get to Stansted if you are in the East or South but murder if you were in the Central of London. Thanks Mike
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