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The USA And Mexico Agree To More Flights.  
User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 5126 times:

The air traffic between the USA and Mexico has been healthy lately, and just got healthier. Countries agreee to three airlines per city pair.

http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1127337827.html

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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5844 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 2 hours ago) and read 5111 times:

Interesting. I wonder which will routes will see new filings when this is ratified.


"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6788 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 2 hours ago) and read 5114 times:

Wow.. some city pairs could have 6 airlines to one Mexican city, and RDU can't even get the 1st airline.. WOW...


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 2 hours ago) and read 5098 times:

LAX, ORD, and JFK to MEX, GDL and CUN will be my guess.

User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5844 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 2 hours ago) and read 5073 times:

Here are a few more details from the DOT.

City pairs impacted are between any city in the US and Acapulco, Cancun, Cozumel, Guadalajara, Huatulco, Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo, Loreto, Manzanillo, Mazatalan, Merida, Monterrey, Oaxaca, Puerto Vallarta and San Jose del Cabo.

Codeshares on any route increases from four to ten.

It also splits Washington and Baltimore into 2 separate markets opening more opportunities there.
http://www.dot.gov/affairs/dot13305.htm



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 2 hours ago) and read 5034 times:

I wonder now if Airtran will be interested in BWI/PHL-CUN

User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11969 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 2 hours ago) and read 4996 times:

Interesting that MEX was not included in this expanded bilateral...

User currently offlineAndahuailas From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 2 hours ago) and read 4979 times:

i Can see AA filing for Lax- Mex, or JFK- Mex, and Azteca filing for Mex- Lax as well, interesting

User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5236 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 1 hour ago) and read 4957 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 4):
City pairs impacted are between any city in the US and Acapulco, Cancun, Cozumel, Guadalajara, Huatulco, Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo, Loreto, Manzanillo, Mazatalan, Merida, Monterrey, Oaxaca, Puerto Vallarta and San Jose del Cabo.

Not fair enough!! CINTRA holds good routes @ MEX.

6A is based at MTY and will sure be affected by this...!!

As always unfair things for all @ our aviation.

Mexico and the United States day by day are getting more and more ties of friendship no matter some people hate this idea!!! Today I met this new nice girl at school which is american... and loves living @ MEX and she says she'll stay here forever...!!!

Does the Mexico's-USA numbers of flights in a day, including all carriers flying, have surpassed the USA-Canada numbers of flights?


Ricardo APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineTimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 576 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 1 hour ago) and read 4949 times:

I see United/TED adding ORD-CUN.


Living in LA, ORD/MDW will always be home!
User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 1 hour ago) and read 4929 times:

JetBlue JFK-CUN? maybe... NYC to Cancun is already full with CO and AA. Now with three airlines, this would be feasible.

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 8):
Does the Mexico's-USA numbers of flights in a day, including all carriers flying, have surpassed the USA-Canada numbers of flights?

This has been debated for a couple of years. I think it has.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 1 hour ago) and read 4900 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 10):
JetBlue JFK-CUN? maybe... NYC to Cancun is already full with CO and AA. Now with three airlines, this would be feasible.

Not if DL/Song beats them to it, between AA, CO and DL I don't think B6 will be able to fly any routes to Mexico from NY.



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User currently offlinePlaneGuy27 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 1 hour ago) and read 4852 times:

Benito Juarez International Airport in Mexico City was not included in the agreement per press release due to a very bad congestion problem. Hopefully Toluca airport will take off as a true second gateway (new access highway and passenger terminal built) for Mexico City.

I would expect JetBlue to apply for JFK-CUN and there now doesn't need to be a route case for LAX-CUN applications for second carrier.


User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2482 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months ago) and read 4847 times:

Cancun (CUN), Guadalajara (GDL) and San Jose del Cabo (SJD) will be the major winners with this agreement.

We will see a fight for rights to fly:

GDL-LAX between ZE, 6A and JR
SJD-LAX between AM, ZE and 6A

among others...


User currently offlineAirlineslover From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4783 times:

Sounds really good and aprofitable for mexican airlines, like ZE, 6A and Avolar (airline code  Sad ??) I can imagine 6A or ZE flying MEX-MIA or MEX-JFK... but I can't understand why this new rule between both countries, MEX-LAX is served by AM MX JR and 6A is because MEX is the capital of Mexico or exist another reason for that..... I am a little bit confused..... cheers VIC

User currently offlineOakjam From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4768 times:

Hello all do any of you see now with this new agreement that Aeromexico will try to capitalize on certain markets that they are not in...Like Northern California. I know AM has a codeshare with MX, but I like AM service better. Mexicana has enjoyed all of Nor Cal's Airports SFO, OAK, SJC, SMF. I would love to see Aeromexico in Oakland to GDL, or AM to any other city in Mexico. I love their service. The AM jet would also look lovely in the bay area. Does anyone see Aviacsa moving into the Bay area also.

User currently offlineAdriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1140 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4739 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 8):
Today I met this new nice girl at school which is american... and loves living @ MEX and she says she'll stay here forever...!!!

Is someone sounding smitten here, cloudnine  Ricardo? You should probably invite her to the next "avioncitos" meeting so the gang can get to meet her!!

___Ad.



A300/18/19/20/21 B721/2 B732/3/G/8 B741/2/4 B752 B762/3/4 B772/3 DC8/9/10 MD11 TU134/154 IL62/86 An24 SA340/2000 E45/90
User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6589 posts, RR: 35
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4719 times:
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I hope MX takes advantage of this and fights for rights to land at Washington National, like Air Canada.

Ghost77 is in love!!!


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4683 times:

Excellent news. This is gonna ease up a few competitions (DL and UA competing for LAX-CUN, DL and AA competing for JFK-SJD, DL, FL and NK competing for MCO-CUN). Hope this also means the DOT will be a bit faster in their decisions  Wink .

User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4663 times:

I really think Jetblue wanted to do JFK-CUN but couldn't because of the restrictions. That will be my first prediction for 2006, JetBlue lands in CUN.

User currently offlinePlaneGuy27 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4633 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 17):
I hope MX takes advantage of this and fights for rights to land at Washington National, like Air Canada.

Ghost77 is in love!!!

The only reason there are Air Canada flights into Washington National is because those Canadian airports have US Preclearance stations for US Customs and Border Protection.

I can't imagine that preclearance would ever be at Mexico City, which also sits way outside of the perimeter for Washington National service.

PlaneGuy27


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5950 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4572 times:
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OakJam...I'm wishing the same thing for the SF Bay Area airports. I think AM would do well there.

I wonder if this will open the door to the newcomers slated to start service out of Mexico. Maybe the newcomers will change their business plan a bit to include international service.

Also, perhaps this will give impetus for ZE to expand service out of OAK.

Time will tell.


User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2463 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4494 times:

HP will be going after LAX-CUN. They wanted that route for years.


The 747: The hands who designed it were guided by god.
User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2482 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4472 times:

Quoting Airlineslover (Reply 14):
Sounds really good and aprofitable for mexican airlines, like ZE, 6A and Avolar (airline code ??) I can imagine 6A or ZE flying MEX-MIA or MEX-JFK... but I can't understand why this new rule between both countries, MEX-LAX is served by AM MX JR and 6A is because MEX is the capital of Mexico or exist another reason for that..... I am a little bit confused..... cheers VIC

Avolar = A5

MEX-LAX is only served by AM and MX from the Mexican side. No other Mexican airline can fly the route due to the US-MEX bilateral agreement. JR and 6A have flights to LAX from other mexican cities but not from MEX.


User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4470 times:

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 21):
I wonder if this will open the door to the newcomers slated to start service out of Mexico. Maybe the newcomers will change their business plan a bit to include international service.

It would be cool to see more mexican airlines flying here, including more cargo airlines such as Aero Union, Aeropostal de Mexico.. Im sure some of those start ups and existing airlines could start doing charters to places like MCO, FLL, TPA..


25 Airlineslover : Rojo: JR flies MEX-PVR-LAX (I think is flt 156 and 150 for MEX-ZLO-LAX) and 6A flies MEX-BJX-MTY-LAX 6A flt. 792/790
26 EddieDude : Yeah Victor, but those count only as PVR-LAX and MTY-LAX, respectively, for purposes of the bilateral. This is really surprising news. I must say I di
27 LACA773 : Does anyone think AM will start LAX-CUN? It would be nice to see them increase their presence at LAX. MX seems to have them beat and I agree that the
28 Ghost77 : Ahh... wish Jennifer was my age..! But she's 4 years older... of course I certainly don't mind.. dunno about her.. as for the avioncitos I'll try to
29 N1120A : Wont happen, as MEX is not included in the extension Yes, I can definately see this and really don't understand why they don't split JFK and EWR like
30 Sebring : Canada and the US have open skies. No carrier, frequency or capacity restraints. Six US airlines and three Canadian carriers are flying the transbord
31 Juventus : Hey Eddie. I agree with you. I think this benefits more the US airlines, than the Mexican carriers. However, I think this will give the Mexican econo
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