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Any A.nutters See In Person Or Were On Board 292?  
User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5363 times:

We Had somebody on the A-340 why not this one?

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User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5335 times:

I'm sure Sam Chui was standing next to the runway filling up CF cards on this approach...  bigthumbsup 


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User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5323 times:

yes ted, the 1st thing i did was rush over to the internet kiosk  sarcastic 

User currently offlineN506CR From Costa Rica, joined Nov 2004, 147 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5289 times:

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 1):
I'm sure Sam Chui was standing next to the runway filling up CF cards on this approach... bigthumbsup

Is any a.netter LAX ground staff? I spotted a couple of employees taking pics of the collapsed gear mainly.

Maybe ending up in a.net? I dunno, hope so!


User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5284 times:

Like someone said, a.net will be FILLED with pictures of this landing tomorrow

If we have an anutter on board that'll be really cool


User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5183 times:

There was an a.netter on that 340??!?! Really?!?

Chris



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5157 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 6):
There was an a.netter on that 340??!?! Really?!?

Yes the one a couple months ago you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_358
RE: AF358 Evacuation Post Mortem (door Closed) (by Eddieho Aug 7 2005 in Civil Aviation)
Reply 25


[Edited 2005-09-22 04:24:09]

[Edited 2005-09-22 04:30:09]

User currently offlinePassBureauMgr From United States of America, joined May 2005, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5052 times:

An a.netter who goes by the name of SunValley was on that flight I'm sure. We talk very frequently, and he was scheduled to do BUR-JFK to day. I have tried calling him but cannot reach him.

User currently offlineAaway From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1539 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5046 times:

I watched from the west end of the I-105 where it merges into Imperial Hwy. Loads of cars parked illegally, and people (including me) standing in areas where pedestrians are prohibited (along the shoulder of the east and westbound 105).

Initially the police presence was minimal. However, law enforcement from 3 different agencies soon appeared to "clear the area", save for the assembled media. Fortunately, I had my hand held scanner and just happened to be standing next to a TV van from a local station. I got to stay and watch!

Considering the media coverage, it was very anti-climatic (obviously in the good sense of the term). Touched down slow, rolled long. Nose was up perhaps half the landing roll. Some smoke, a bit of flame - yet gladly uneventful.

Aircraft continued to utilize 25L/25R until 5 minutes prior to landing, But most traffic had been switched to the north complex. After landing, 25R was closed for approximately 30 minutes before reopening.



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User currently offlineBridogger6 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 716 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4920 times:

I saw the flight loading in BUR today if that counts... I was in BUR for the second day in a row and decided to watch B6 load up while waiting for my flight to PHX.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4882 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 2):
yes ted, the 1st thing i did was rush over to the internet kiosk

In Teds defense Nosedive, it is a valid question IMO . . .

Geez, you surely know there are people here (on A-Net) with no life at all that would be posting the play by play from the cabin if they thought it possible . . . .  wink 


User currently offlineUnited737522 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4809 times:

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 1):
I'm sure Sam Chui was standing next to the runway filling up CF cards on this approach...

Oh please.... The last place anyone taking pictures needs to be on the side of the runway. First, there is no need to endanger another life, if the person is not a necessity, such as EMS, they should not be there. It would be wrong for Sam to have been along the side of the runway, talk about an abuse of privileges.


User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4734 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 10):
it is a valid question IMO . . .

Yea, I would like to hear the stories from those who saw the plane land. But as you said/implied, only the "armchair announcers" would get off on being the 1st w/ the play by play. Either way, the thread is up.


User currently offlineMizzou65201 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4711 times:

I posted in the main thread...I live in Westchester about 1/2 mile north of LAX and went down to Imperial Hill in El Segundo after KABC-TV reported that the flight would land on 25L. There were already at least 150 people around by the time I got there, and it quickly grew to 200+. The fire started up just before reaching the main vantage point of Imperial Hill, and, of course, the plane stopped soon thereafter. From seeing it in person and then seeing it on TV after the fact, it was much more noticeable in person how long the captain kept the nose in the air before setting down. Most aircraft are turning or close to turning off the runway at about T4...whereas that was about the point where the captain first set down the nose gear. Of course, the whole crowd gave a big cheer and applause when the a/c came to a stop with no apparent problems.

The north complex was business as usual the entire time, and the 25s were in normal use until B6 came in...in fact there was a UA jet that took off within 5 minutes of B6's arrival.


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5618 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4662 times:

I was on the scene as it came down and was it ever spectacular! I was shooting video so no pics can be posted. I've viewed the footage several times and sounds of the squibbing tires then bursting into flames was awesome! But why did the pilot NOT deploy the spoilers or thrust reversers to slow the rollout? Not questioning his skills.... but I'm not a pilot and would like to know.

By not doing so, the skidding sounds are quite pronouced on playback. Very interesting indeed.


Afterwards I had to get back to the city. It was a zoo... the cops could not control traffic coming off the 105 Freeway where it becomes Imperial Highway, people parked along the entire roadway..easily creating a traffic hazard, as cops mpve people away others fought to take there place to park... it got completely out of hand!

BN747



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4616 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 12):
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 10):
it is a valid question IMO . . .

Yea, I would like to hear the stories from those who saw the plane land. But as you said/implied, only the "armchair announcers" would get off on being the 1st w/ the play by play. Either way, the thread is up.

You're right of course . . . but the question was valid . . .

And then there's this response . . . from someone with no imagination and no sense of humor or sarcasm . . .

Quoting United737522 (Reply 11):
Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 1):
I'm sure Sam Chui was standing next to the runway filling up CF cards on this approach...

Oh please.... The last place anyone taking pictures needs to be on the side of the runway. First, there is no need to endanger another life, if the person is not a necessity, such as EMS, they should not be there. It would be wrong for Sam to have been along the side of the runway, talk about an abuse of privileges

Civ-Av is starting to look like Non-Av  wink 


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5618 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4540 times:

Quoting United737522 (Reply 11):
Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 1):
I'm sure Sam Chui was standing next to the runway filling up CF cards on this approach...
Oh please.... The last place anyone taking pictures needs to be on the side of the runway. First, there is no need to endanger another life, if the person is not a necessity, such as EMS, they should not be there. It would be wrong for Sam to have been along the side of the runway, talk about an abuse of privileges.

That's completely uncalled for... being there 1st hand everyone permitted to be there for whatever reason was there and at a very safe distance. No One was even near the runway.

BN747



"Home of the Brave, made by the Slaves..Land of the Free, if you look like me.." T. Jefferson
User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
You're right of course . . . but the question was valid . . .

And then there's this response . . . from someone with no imagination and no sense of humor or sarcasm . . .

So.................................... the crux of this thread is the pimp slapping of Ryan Richter?


User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4310 times:

How did they removed aircraft from the runway?

Rafal


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24951 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4292 times:

Quoting Lindy (Reply 18):
How did they removed aircraft from the runway?

Lifted it by helicopter?  spit 



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User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4176 times:

I flew into LAX on United 121 from ORD. We landed on 25L at around 5:30, and I noticed all the emergency vehicles lining the runway. I thought they were doing some disaster training or something. It wasn't until I got into the parking lot shuttle that some woman on a cell phone said there was going to be a "crash landing" at the airport. I got my car, went under the Sepulveda tunnel, and people were pulling off the side of the road (and the 105) to see it.

I didn't stick around, because quite honestly if something catastrophic happened, I didn't really want to be an eyewitness to it. Besides, I knew from the TV trucks they would replay whatever happened ad nauseum (and I was right).


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4159 times:

Where do you draw the line between wanting to report the facts versus getting your jollies off by photographing it and then tripping over yourself to rush home to upload the pix to this site?

Some people have no life indeed.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26626 posts, RR: 75
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4106 times:

Quoting United737522 (Reply 11):
Oh please.... The last place anyone taking pictures needs to be on the side of the runway. First, there is no need to endanger another life, if the person is not a necessity, such as EMS, they should not be there. It would be wrong for Sam to have been along the side of the runway, talk about an abuse of privileges.

Oh please, the last thing people should be doing is talking about something they know nothing about. There are plenty of people who work on the ramp at LAX and have access and even more who go to Imperial Hill to view the South Complex.



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User currently offlineGlideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1621 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4103 times:

I was on N536JB SYR/JFK/MCO on 7/10/04. Thats the best I can do.  Smile


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User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4008 times:
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Quoting BN747 (Reply 14):
I was on the scene as it came down and was it ever spectacular! I was shooting video so no pics can be posted. I've viewed the footage several times and sounds of the squibbing tires then bursting into flames was awesome! But why did the pilot NOT deploy the spoilers or thrust reversers to slow the rollout? Not questioning his skills.... but I'm not a pilot and would like to know.

This was mentioned in one of the other threads ... firstly, the Airbus checklist for this kind of emergency says shut down the engines as soon as the mains touchdown (which would eliminate FOD damage to the engines) ... this will only give about 30 seconds of hydraulics, hence, maybe, the lack of spoilers ... will they stay up if they're raised, then hydraulic pressure fails?

I guess the reasoning, in general, is when the plane stops (in whatever condition it stops in) you already want it as close to "safed" condition as you can get for evac purposes.

Also, spoilers and thrust reversers are going to ADD pressure to the front landing gear, and you want absolutely as LITTLE pressure as you can get on that front strut, to prevent collapse.

Those guys did their landing exactly by the book and it turned out perfectly.

- litz


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5618 posts, RR: 51
Reply 25, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2993 times:

Thanks for the explanation, Litz...

Honestly, I thought the reason for not using spoilers and/or thrust-reversers had something to with their immediate impact on the ship itself-- perhaps rocking it abit side to side-- putting more stress on the damaged nosegear (where there is absolutely NO control)... but as I said, I'm no pilot and had no idea why they weren't used. Now it makes sense. It is certainly one of the most dramatic pieces of footage I'll treasure for a long time to come!

BN747



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