CayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9 Posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2372 times:
Anyone know how the load factors and/or yields are on AC YYZ CCS service (I realize the routing is actually YYZ POS CCS YYZ)
I have had family on the YYZ CCS flight several times in recent weeks and every time we have been told the flight was "oversold" although they always got on.
Just curious if anyone has general info on how they are doing on the route? Thanks for any info---
9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1344 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2112 times:
This is one of AC's more challenging routes. I doubt that it will reach the critical mass required for POS and CCS to get their own non-stop flights. If the flight were to go non-stop to these cities,then each city would be lucky to have two flights a week. The current triangle routing allows the frequency to be what it is today and that's how you earn higher yielding fares because of the high load factors. Hopefully this route will become daily,then perhaps it will be upgauged to a B767,it's at that point,that you may see each city potentially get it's own dedicated daily non-stop A319 flights.
Luisde8cd From Venezuela, joined Aug 2004, 2516 posts, RR: 34 Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2105 times:
AC has extremely high fares between CCS and YYZ. I tried to book a flight to YYZ from CCS during summer and there were no seats available in coach until late September, only business seats on selected dates were available.
I decided to fly CCS-MIA with Santa Barbara and then fly Southwest PBI-BUF. I then took a train in BUF to Downtown Toronto. The whole trip costed me around 30% of what AC charges on the route.
Quoting CayMan (Reply 4):
Do you mean that Viasa used to fly to Canada?
CayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9 Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2050 times:
Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 6): AC has extremely high fares between CCS and YYZ. I tried to book a flight to YYZ from CCS during summer and there were no seats available in coach until late September, only business seats on selected dates were available.
That must be an indication that the lower fares were sold out, because normally AC is very competitive on the route on its best fares. usually the best fare base is around CAD$600 plus taxes--comes to about $800. Obviously that might vary somewhat depending on dates--and subject to availability---but if you buy in advance AC is at least as cheap as AA or any other connecting service and without the US transit hassles.
Avianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5857 posts, RR: 40 Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2043 times:
Quoting CayMan (Reply 8): That must be an indication that the lower fares were sold out, because normally AC is very competitive on the route on its best fares. usually the best fare base is around CAD$600 plus taxes--comes to about $800. Obviously that might vary somewhat depending on dates--and subject to availability---but if you buy in advance AC is at least as cheap as AA or any other connecting service and without the US transit hassles.
wow I only know that AC has always one of the best fares from europe to CCS... round about 600 to 800 euro fra-yyz-ccs-yyz-fra...
so I can imagine that the flights have some passengers from and to europe.
Luisde8cd From Venezuela, joined Aug 2004, 2516 posts, RR: 34 Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2025 times:
Quoting CayMan (Reply 8):
That must be an indication that the lower fares were sold out, because normally AC is very competitive on the route on its best fares. usually the best fare base is around CAD$600 plus taxes--comes to about $800. Obviously that might vary somewhat depending on dates--and subject to availability---but if you buy in advance AC is at least as cheap as AA or any other connecting service and without the US transit hassles.
I was almost denied entry to Canada at the Niagara Falls, Ontario train station because the Inmigration Agent said my name wasnt legible in the biodata page of my passport. I showed her my valid Canadian Visa stamped in my passport in the Canadian Embassy in Caracas and told her that if they had given me the Visa was because they could read and verify all my data. 10mins later, she finally decided to stamp my passport with a not very nice face. In the US I always clear inmigration in less than 1 minute.
Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis
Viasa we miss you!. Good times will return after Chavez is gone!
Avianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5857 posts, RR: 40 Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2008 times:
Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 10): she finally decided to stamp my passport with a not very nice face. In the US I always clear inmigration in less than 1 minute.
wow normally I now that the other way.. 1 minute in Canada and 2 hours in the US
YULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2111 posts, RR: 6 Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1927 times:
Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 10): I was almost denied entry to Canada at the Niagara Falls, Ontario train station because the Inmigration Agent said my name wasnt legible in the biodata page of my passport
You know, because of the Falls, there are many little drops of water in the air there. I'm sure that's why the agent was unable to read. Too much water in the eyes....
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