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KLM To Add More 777's And F100's  
User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8714 times:

http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/news/?ID=10351

KLM's Peter Hartman said that KLM will add 3 new F100's from deBis AirFinance this year. They wanted F-70's but could not be found. Also for future expansion they will look for further 777's (probably 772ER IMHO)


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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8505 times:

http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/news/?id=10351

this article reads, "the chance exists that KLM orders more tripple sevens" and "to realise growth for the longhaul destinations KLM possibly needs extra 777's"



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User currently offlineGlareskin From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 1307 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8481 times:

Quoting Manni (Reply 1):
the chance exists that KLM orders more tripple sevens

Last month Van Wijk suggested to Airbus KLM orders more A330's. Let's just suggest they will order new aircrafts in the future....



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User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8456 times:

Quoting Kappel (Thread starter):
probably 772ER IMHO

Is there really no chance they'd order 773ERs for growth (given that AF, their "sister company", also flies them)?

Tony



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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8341 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 3):
Is there really no chance they'd order 773ERs for growth (given that AF, their "sister company", also flies them)?

Tough call. It's always possible of course. But IMHO they will order them when they want to replace the 744's as Leo van Wijk has stated they have no interest in the A380. And because they only have 4 or 5 full pax 744, I believe they won't order the 747adv., rather some 773ER's and 777F's.



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User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8365 times:

The Fokker 100s are 3 ex-Pelita F100`s, MSN 11444, 11475 and 11477. They will join the fleet as PH-OFL, PH-OFM and PH-OFN. http://www.fokker-aircraft.info/
These planes are now stored at DNR together with 11445. Anyone knows where the latter will end up?

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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8311 times:

Quoting AMSSFO (Reply 5):
When will Rekkof start?

My guess is never.



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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8244 times:

Quoting Manni (Reply 1):
this article reads, "the chance exists that KLM orders more tripple sevens" and "to realise growth for the longhaul destinations KLM possibly needs extra 777's"

You're right, should have read it better.

Quoting Glareskin (Reply 2):
Last month Van Wijk suggested to Airbus KLM orders more A330's. Let's just suggest they will order new aircrafts in the future....

You are also right. I wonder if KLM themselves know wich one they will add. I guess they will wait and see how the a332 performs for them.



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User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2162 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8131 times:

Quoting Kappel (Reply 4):
Tough call. It's always possible of course. But IMHO they will order them when they want to replace the 744's as Leo van Wijk has stated they have no interest in the A380. And because they only have 4 or 5 full pax 744, I believe they won't order the 747adv., rather some 773ER's and 777F's.

Is KL looking to get rid of their B744 full pax? Perhaps the fuel situation is making airlines rethink their fleet plans.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8127 times:

I hope KL picks up more 777's.....those, along with BA's and AA's 777's are my favourite aircraft... yes 

they are georgeous!!!!


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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7892 times:

Quoting AF022 (Reply 8):
Is KL looking to get rid of their B744 full pax? Perhaps the fuel situation is making airlines rethink their fleet plans.

No I meant WHEN they will get rid of them. Let's face it, BFA is 16 years old, so IMHO it won't be that long down the road



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User currently offlineJrebel From Sweden, joined Aug 2000, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7785 times:

At the official opening today of the KLM Schengen Crown Lounge at AMS, the audience was apparently told that KL will order more 772ERs. Wasn't there myself, so I can't provide details.

Johan


User currently offlineIMatAMS From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7633 times:

The 773ER would be more of a replacement for the 744, and i'd think KL will keep those, or at least the combi's until the they before they fall apart, as it's unlikely they can get new combi's and they make them a lot of money... Maybe the 773ER is considered if they can convert the 744 pax to combi (don't know if that's even possible)

IM


User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4188 posts, RR: 89
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6670 times:
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Let's not forget that KLM are in the process of negotiating for their 15th & 16th B772ERs. Will be interesting to see if they're negotiating for another model, which some of the wording may well imply.

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