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CO And Its Aircraft....  
User currently offlineMFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4980 times:

I had a question, I understand that there are severl topics relating about CO, and hurricane rita etc...


But I have a quesiotion and anybody that could help will be great.
CO or any other airline will fly there aircraft else where in the event of a hurricane. To what airports do they send there aircraft to.

For example will they send them south to MFE,HRL, or BRO
or will they send them to there hubs, but I know sometimes they send aircraft to non hubs.

any facts will be greatly considered.


Valley Approach.....
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User currently offlineFlyXJT From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 129 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4977 times:

CO, like most other airlines, will try to reposition the aircraft anywhere theres room to stick them. Ideally it would be close enough they don't burn as much fuel getting them safe, however, certain cities only have so much room.
In addition, CO is usually very proactive when it comes to bad weather, so they will end up canceling IAH turns and routing usually as far out as today. This means a IAH-STL flight that supposed to turn back to IAH will spend the next few days at STL, thus maximizing revenue flying and cutting back on the ferry flights.
There is also a problem of places like CLE and EWR then getting all these extra planes due to changed routing, and both places are rather squeezed on space as it is. In that case cities close to EWR and CLE with some room may get some ferry flights (ABE, GRR, MKE, BUF, ERI, etc) just to get them out of the way, and so when the time comes, the aircraft can be quickly dispatched.

Hope this helps, I'll let you know more when I go back to work tomorrow and see how things are, or aren't going.


pw


User currently offlineMFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4886 times:

So what are the odds of CO aircraft coming down to Airports in deep South TX, especially in MFE, because if so, I have some spotting to do!


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16862 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4875 times:

I think CO is going to send alot of their IAH aircraft to EWR, CLE and MCO where they have a maintenance base.


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User currently offlineBostonGuy From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 514 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4866 times:

Quoting MFEFlyer (Reply 2):
So what are the odds of CO aircraft coming down to Airports in deep South TX, especially in MFE, because if so, I have some spotting to do!

Most unlikely.

This isn't like the Air Force which flies it's plane out of a hurricane's path and then parks them until they can go back.

We're dealing with airlines that have to carry passengers to pay for the planes that are being re-scheduled.


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4875 times:

Quoting FlyXJT (Reply 1):
In that case cities close to EWR and CLE with some room may get some ferry flights (ABE, GRR, MKE, BUF, ERI, etc) just to get them out of the way,

ABE is also often a diversion airport (mainly for ExpressJet ERJ's) for storms/wx in EWR, so I'll definitely be taking a trip up Airport Road to see what can be seen hanging out up there.

As for ERI, considering only Commutair goes there (out of CO), and the runway is relatively short, I'm not too sure about there, but if you work for ExpressJet and say so, I'll take your word for it.


User currently offlineFlyXJT From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 129 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4829 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 5):
As for ERI, considering only Commutair goes there (out of CO), and the runway is relatively short, I'm not too sure about there

ERI has long been used as an alternate for CLE. The main question is if they will need to displace any aircraft there because, as of right now they have started parking planes in the outstations.


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4826 times:

Quoting FlyXJT (Reply 6):
ERI has long been used as an alternate for CLE.

That settles that, but it leads to one question:

Is that for when CLE is getting 1/8 mi VIS in heavy snow at 3" per hour, and ERI is only getting "flurries" (as the locals would call it) of 1/4mi VIS in moderate snow at 1" per hour?  Wink


User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4800 times:

Any chance that AUS will get any diversions on Sat? Also where is Peter Max? I bet they are protecting that 777 being it's so famous. Hope all goes well at IAH and HOU.


Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la terre.
User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4762 times:

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 8):
Also where is Peter Max? I bet they are protecting that 777 being it's so famous.

More like, I bet they are protecting ALL AIRCRAFT being they're SO VALUABLE! D'uh.  Yeah sure  Silly 99% of non-A.netter's/aviation geeks probably don't even know there is a gaudy plane painted by an artist that 99% of non-art fans have never heard of.


User currently offlineOptionsCLE From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4768 times:

Quoting FlyXJT (Reply 1):
There is also a problem of places like CLE and EWR then getting all these extra planes due to changed routing, and both places are rather squeezed on space as it is.

This isn't entirely true. While the gate space is an issue at peak bank times, there is a lot of room to park aircraft at CLE. There is CO maintinence, Air Services, the IX Center ramp (which is very large) and the pads that used to be runway 18/36. I'd imagine that some of the CLE-IAH flights will end up being parked at CLE for a while.


User currently offlineMFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4737 times:

How about the flights inbound to MFE,HRL,BRO, will they be cancelled, and if so, where would the aircraft go?


Valley Approach.....
User currently offlineErj-145mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 306 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4582 times:

Quoting MFEFlyer (Reply 11):
How about the flights inbound to MFE,HRL,BRO, will they be cancelled, and if so, where would the aircraft go?

Since they would be cancelled, they would most likely be at another outstation because they couldn't make it into IAH.


User currently offlineMFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

Quoting Erj-145mech (Reply 12):
they would most likely be at another outstation because they couldn't make it

That means that the aircraft would be to the prior airport before it gets to IAH, then makes the next connection to Valley airports, right?



Valley Approach.....
User currently offlineMFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4516 times:

Hey a.netters, I've read some threads about CO canceling flights and what not

I need help on something, I was checking flight availabilities on CO's website, and I input a flight from MFE-IAH and back for 9-23, and 9-24, there's only 1 or 2 flights round trip. I'm pretty sure this is because of the hurricane, but I noticed that they're sending 737-800's and 1 737-300, why not send larger aircraft, maybe like a 757-200/300 since there's only such avalible flights.

Also checked for BRO and HRL, and it seems there are no flights avalible, why is this?
Is it because of expressjet?

[Edited 2005-09-22 23:30:58]


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User currently offlineMFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4451 times:

Help would be helpful. Thanks


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21516 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4411 times:

Quoting MFEFlyer (Reply 14):
but I noticed that they're sending 737-800's and 1 737-300, why not send larger aircraft, maybe like a 757-200/300 since there's only such avalible flights

Maybe because those planes will be in LAX, SEA, MCO, EWR, CLE, TPA, etc.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4258 times:

What are the chances that cities that don't normally get CLE service ( OKC , GSO , and many more) getting flights to CLE to help get people where they need to go ?


"If the facts do not conform to the theory, they will have to be disposed of"
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4212 times:

Most will not be sent anywhere. They will just cancel the return segment to IAH and the aircraft will remain were it is. If gate space gets tight at that airport, they'll just push it off the gate to a remote parking spot.


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4157 times:

Quoting Ejmmsu (Reply 17):
What are the chances that cities that don't normally get CLE service ( OKC , GSO , and many more) getting flights to CLE to help get people where they need to go ?

Won't happen.


User currently offlineIAHcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3425 posts, RR: 42
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4033 times:
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Quoting EMBQA (Reply 18):
Most will not be sent anywhere. They will just cancel the return segment to IAH and the aircraft will remain were it is. If gate space gets tight at that airport, they'll just push it off the gate to a remote parking spot.

 praise 

This is almost exactly the plan.... CO will operate 48 morning arrivals and 55 pre-noon departures on the 23rd. The aircraft will ramain at that destination city until Sunday the 25th (...Or Perhaps longer.. Depending on what Rita does to IAH)
There will be NO CoEx/CoCn Flights at all Fri/Sat ..  redflag   raincloud   scared   splat 



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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4024 times:

BoeingFever777,

Since you asked, currently Peter Max is enroute from HKG-EWR as of 0800z.
I'm working him tonight...

Jeffrey



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineFLYAWA From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3902 times:

Any updates on where CO and COEx are placing their fleet besides out-stations and other hubs? Have they secured enough crews to evacuate from IAH after ops are suspended?


Better than most, not as good as some.
User currently offlineMFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3671 times:

ATTENTION: my question and topic was answered!
Just in from the local News paper here in McAllen, Texas

from Airport Director Darald Lary quote: "McAllen has offered safe haven for up to seven Boeing 737s and as many as 10 regional jets at the airport, Lary said. While those airplanes likely won’t have passengers, McAllen also could receive airplanes diverted away from Houston that are carrying passengers, probably from Central America and South America."



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User currently offlineHaj96 From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3552 times:

I just heard that Rita has sligthly changed her path so Houston is not directly in her way anymore. So any news/update what´s going on in IAH and HOU ?

Regards,
haj96


25 ARGinLON : I guess the operational damage is made and therefore I don't thing it would be possible for CO to reinstate (if it as possible) some of the flights.
26 Post contains links Haj96 : Thanks ARGinLON. Just found this article that IAH will be closed soon (sorry, only in German). http://www.netzeitung.de/reise/flugverkehr/359436.html
27 Tjwgrr : Looks like ELP, DFW, and ABQ Airline Continental Flight Number 9944 Departure City (Airport) Houston, TX (IAH) Departure Time 09/23/2005 09:13 AM Arri
28 Jetpixx : A good place for Peter Max to ride out the storm would be BPT or LCH!
29 Post contains images Bond007 : Sorry to disappoint you, but the plan must have gone wrong El Paso got at least 12 from IAH. UTC time: 12:56 on Sun, 25th Sep(Note: ALL Times are UTC
30 Willbdsp : There are two ExpressJet planes parked at BHM...one at the gate and one near a hangar.
31 Post contains images Acidradio : It seems like they sent a couple (or more) aircraft to each station. Everyone seems to have a couple spare CO aircraft sitting around. Here at MSP, we
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