Accargo From Canada, joined Sep 2004, 610 posts, RR: 8 Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1550 times:
Quoting ACgSpotman (Reply 1): Rumor has it this flight will be makig a come back in the fall as well as Johannasburg and Moscow.
Not this fall.
Quoting CayMan (Thread starter): Any chance of AC reinstating YYZ HNL service or was it permanently cancelled?
It's a combination of lack of acft and low yields on this route. I can see it returning at some point in the future if fuel prices come down and the CDN stays up. It won't likely happen until some new metal starts arriving though.
Ppostro From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 36 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1512 times:
Low-cost carrier Zoom Airlines is starting this route in December 2005. They will rely on pax connecting on-wards from their European routes for their loads. Harmony Airways also offers same-plane service via YVR on this route so there are options. And now with WestJet offering their flights to Hawaii, one could always fly YYZ-YVR-HNL or OGG on West Jet, personally Zoom's fares are very good so they should do well.
Accargo From Canada, joined Sep 2004, 610 posts, RR: 8 Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1492 times:
There is definite potential for connecting passengers, but as I said, there is a acft shortage problem at this time. When the route was last operated it's yield wasn't the best. At the moment there are other routes that can provide higher yield than YYZ-HNL, so that is where the acft are being used.
9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1342 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1465 times:
I recently noticed that AC has loaded a direct flight into their schedule. I'm not sure what the flight number is,but it routes YYZ-YVR-HNL with a return flight offering direct service. In regards to restarting this route non-stop,one has to bare in mind,that the route was last operated non-stop by CP when they had a code-share with QF and earlier with NZ as well,with a midnight connection hub operating at HNL in both directions. So yes at one time it did well,but things change. Today the route would have too much low-yield traffic and very little of the high-yield traffic that would be needed to sustain this route.
I'm very curious about the potential of the JNB route. It's been talked about for years.I would like to hear from anyone that can shed more light on this route,specifically why it would be started.