Sebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1675 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9220 times:
The 2006 deliveries have been lost, and will have to be rescheduled, assuming AC doesn't alter the number of 777 aircraft it wants. I was told that Boeing will ensure that AC has enough 2006 lift - presumably used aircraft, though not 777-300ERs because there aren't any on the market - to meet AC's 2006 capacity expansion needs.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9196 times:
I think these issues will be solved and AC will probably be able to get the same deals as before, but will lose some of their slots, especially for the 777..but this is BIG news.....would love to see the 777's in AC colours..
AC had two confirmed 2006 slots, and one that was to be firmed up right after the pilot's vote. Those slots were simply used to move other customers up in line. In other words, no one really "got" the AC slots, they simply moved ahead a little. If you were looking for actual l/n, I believe AF is now in the first slot (3/06), and I believe ANZ is now in the 6/06 slot.
USAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8977 times:
This is indeed good news for both Boeing and AC. With the troubles that NW is in, those 787 slots could be quickly taken by AC, should NW liquidate or cancel it's order, My hope is that both AC & NW get the 787.
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Robsawatsky From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 597 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8886 times:
The good news is that the company-union (aircraft type/rates) and intra-union (seniority) issues have been recognized by both parties as separate issues. The 1st will get resolved because it is binding arbitration. The 2nd is mediation, which I will not speculate on the probability of success given that it would have to throw a previously aribitrated decision.
777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12560 posts, RR: 17
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7524 times:
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Quoting ER757 (Reply 19): Now if Boeing and their machinists can just resolve their differences
According to BCAinfosystems (i think thats the member) he said that the BCA chief said to not expect a resolution to the strike for atleast 5 months (February/March). If only Boeing would get a court order demanding the strikers return to work and then work on a new contract.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6735 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7174 times:
Great news ! I was just wondering how things were coming along. It seems like AC is almost ready to talk to Boeing again regarding this. Hopefully AC will finalize this order before Christmas and perhaps AI, QR and QF will have placed firm orders for the 777 then as well....
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Gmonney From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2160 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6045 times:
This is all fine and dandy, but is AC tring to own 20 of every aircraft on the market, I am just thinking of the MX costs and the training time need for the current employees... I know that they are not happy with A, but will the costs of B be too great?
Drive it like you stole it!
: The original AC plan was to replace the 330/340 fleet with 777/787. The 767 fleet would be the last to be replaced. So, AC want to be effectively Air
: The 787/777 would be perfect for Air Canada, and would eliminate the A340's, which from all indications, AC are not happy with performance wise. Don'
: You don't need to generalize so much ... who said that they're not happy with all of the Airbus types that they have in their fleet? Common rumor is
: They are not happy with the A343 and A345. Out of the 20 Airbus Widebodies, this would mean that they are not satisfied with 12 planes. If you do the
: Lot's and lot's of rumours about how unhappy AC is with it's Airbus widebodies. Too bad there is not a lot of truth in the rumours. The 330's are exce
: True, but the 2 A345's have a dedicated maintenance team. I know of no other airplanes which would require such heavy maintenance to keep them at an
: The fuel issue has only surfaced recently, it was much less a factor when AC acquired all it's 340's. I am not sure what variants of the 777 were aro
: Hey come on, they give YYZ some variety for the spotters. We would not get MD-11s or as many DC-10s. James
: I have no indication that that is currently the case, if it ever was. I don't see that myself. I think you have a very imaginative crystal ball. Fuel
: thanks for the information Sebring..but what I don't understand is that I have read countless amounts of time that Airbus offers bettere financing th