Ahlfors From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 1318 posts, RR: 5 Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4376 times:
Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 3): Always thought with 4 engines and stol type performance they would make excellent aircraft for intra-carribbean service
Carib Air of Barbados tried that. I flew them once ANU-DCF-BGI and return. The route stopped a few months later when someone found out that the 146 was not certified to land at DCF due to lack of runway length.
Jlp123 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 54 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4265 times:
Does Mesaba still operate it's CVG hanger and domicile? If so, what happens when the ARJ's go? I have always thought they were created because of that airplane.
M404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2214 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4245 times:
Just as in the other thread you have to remember that these MAY get terms of leases refinanced and then Mesaba's contract with NW reworked as well. Don't bury them till they're dead.
Northwest will have to definitely decide just which routes with which fuel efficient/inefficient aircraft a profitable load can be made. Likely you will see any new leases possibly be short term as pilot contract limitations will be targeted as well to allow newer second generation planes when they can be purchased.
[Edited 2005-09-25 04:24:55]
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Bomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 364 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4214 times:
Quoting Ahlfors (Reply 5): Carib Air of Barbados tried that. I flew them once ANU-DCF-BGI and return. The route stopped a few months later when someone found out that the 146 was not certified to land at DCF due to lack of runway length.
Whats the runway length at DCF and whats the minimum a 146 needs?
FriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4009 posts, RR: 6 Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2973 times:
TOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3220 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2796 times:
Doesn't NW lease the Avro, and then sublease the aircraft to Mesaba? In rejecting (or attempting to reject) the aircraft, is NW saying that leasing the planes to Mesaba isn't done at a profit? I would figure that even a small profit on the sublease is better than nothing.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2643 times:
How about SN? They have a large fleet of ARJ and seeing that they like the lease-rates on them might pick up a few of those? I don't really know if they need any more though.
Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 26 Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2647 times:
Indy Post 14, You stop at Halifax, Atlantis, Greenland and over to the British Isles.
safe
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Sllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6 Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1827 times:
I think they'll end up with NW. This is just a game of chicken...the planes will end up spending a few days in the desert, then everything will be re-negotiated and they'll go back into service.
Look for a lot of NW aircraft to take short "vacations."
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15734 posts, RR: 48 Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1809 times:
Nordair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1485 times:
I've never found any specs regarding fuel consumption on the AvroRJs. Are they big fuel guzzlers?
25 N766UA: Same way cessnas, pipers, canadairs, embraers, etc. get there. Throw some fuel in the cabin and make a stop in Greenland or Iceland.
26 Northwestair: I know on a trip from OKC-MEM we have put as little as 12000lbs and as much as 20600lbs of fuel. The 12000lbs being when it was VFR all the way and n
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