KLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 810 posts, RR: 22 Posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3915 times:
I was browsing AZ's site, looking at the fleet info, when I noticed that the
business class configuration in the B772ER is 2-2-2.
Considering the cabin width of this aircraft this seems like a very
I was wondering about other T7 operators and their business class
Only one I know for sure is KL 2-3-2, and I think I saw a picture the other
day somewhere of EK also having 2-3-2.
I can understand that from a passengers point of view the 222 seems a lot
better, but in these difficult times, I frankly don't understand airlines who opt
for this layout, when there clearly is space enough to put in an extra seat.
Baw716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2026 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3570 times:
AZ has a Premium Business Class called Magnifica Class. It is a hybrid between First and Business Class. This is a step up from regular business class and one step down from first in terms of space and seating.
There are no bed seats in Magnifica; however, the Recaro designed seats are pitched at 57", and recline to a 170 degree angle at the back and about the same at the feet. It isn't flat, but it is really comfortable. The seats are wide, about 21.5 inches, and the IFE is touch screen and on demand. In fact, AZ stepped up to put the latest, greatest IFE program in their 777s, so on demand anything is available simply by touching the screen.
There are 45 seats in Magnifica, split between the front cabin and a small portion of the second cabin. In the galley area is a wetbar set up for passengers to make their own drinks or obtain their snacks at any time during the flight.
Hence, the six across seating enhances the feel of a true F cabin without all the F class flourishes. Everything is served from the trolley, so there is some degree of personalized service at your table. The wines are above average and all Italian and the cheeses, especially coming from Italy are all fresh as is the fruit. All in all, a very pleasant experience.
Take a ride on it sometime; I think you will find it just as comfortable as any flat bed product out there.
David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998
Megatop747-412 From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3526 times:
Quoting Mlsrar (Reply 5): SQ's spacebed product is 2x2x2 on their 777s.
Just to add on a bit about SQ's 777s... SQ operates both the 772ERs and 773. They have several different configs on their 772s, depending on whether they are for "regional" use (registration are 9V-SQ* and 9V-SR* ) or "long haul" (9V-SV*) use. Only the long haul B772ERS (9V-SV* series) feature the SpaceBed product, which usues a 2-2-2 layout in J/C class.
The rest of the 777 fleet (including the 773s) uses 2-3-2 configs.
Intothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3116 times:
Now heres something. BA has a 2-4-2 configuration on their 777's in C class. And these birds fly long haul. I've heard so many good reviews of the BA c class seat, but how? SQ have their long haul birds configured in 2-2-2, just compare.
KLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 810 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3063 times:
Wow, I had no idea BA had 242 in club class.
It looks very cramped on this picture, but then again they are real flat's
, as opposed the most other biz-classes.
Is BA the only airline with alternate forward/rear facing seats?
I don't like to be facing opposite the flying direction.
Alitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4731 posts, RR: 45
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3022 times:
Quoting LACA773 (Reply 20): Hi Intotheair, if you look closely it's 2-3-2 though it does look 2-4-2. It's confusing because of the way they have the seats positioned with alternating forward and backward facing seats.
Starlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 16908 posts, RR: 67
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3004 times:
Quoting Intothinair (Reply 18): Now heres something. BA has a 2-4-2 configuration on their 777's in C class. And these birds fly long haul. I've heard so many good reviews of the BA c class seat, but how?
As many have said earlier on this forum, pitch is more important than width.
My wife has flown this several time. She says that while the bed is a mite narrow, being able to stretch out flat makes it totally worth it. Also since they are alternate facing you gain a lot of space. They are teardrop shaped and narrower around the legs, where the body is narrower, so the alternate seat gains more space around the upper body.
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."