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Airlines Pull Out Of Southampton, UK  
User currently offlineAtco2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 1114 posts, RR: 7
Posted (9 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 4617 times:

Euromanx and Air Berlin have both announced they are to pull out of Southampton Eastleigh.

Euromanx which recently reinstated the Ronaldsway service is pulling out due to rising fuel costs.
Air Berlin, which serve Paderborn 3x weekly have not confirmed why they are to finish after 10 months of service.

A quote now from the website source - An airport spokesman said: "We will be looking for an airline to take over the routes to the Isle of Man and Paderborn."

I could see BE taking over IOM...

Tom


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User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 4594 times:

SOU is owned and operated by the BAA, that's why the charges are high.

BOU is only a stones throw away and gagging to attract more airlines.



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 4586 times:

Yes I too can see BE making a BEline for IOM, especially considering they already operate to IOM from quite a few destinations.

I think Paderborn may remain unserved and I can well imagine Air Berlin has had problems filling the aircraft on this route. It seemed an unusual choice to me when it was launched.


User currently offlineAtco2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 1114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 4541 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 2):
It seemed an unusual choice to me when it was launched.

Ive heard the route was very popular with Army personnel from Wiltshire/Hampshire/Dorset, seeing as there is some kind of 'big barracks' next to Paderborn Big grin



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User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 4518 times:

Quoting Atco2b (Reply 3):
Ive heard the route was very popular with Army personnel from Wiltshire/Hampshire/Dorset, seeing as there is some kind of 'big barracks' next to Paderborn

Maybe Ryanair will step into the void left by Air Berlin ex BOU.



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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2393 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

Air Berlin is moving from SOU to BOH.


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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 4500 times:

Atco2b, If I had know Paderborn was near a big army barracks, I might have been tempted to be a regular on Air Berlin myself. I like a man in uniform.

User currently offlineAtco2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 1114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 4485 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 6):
I like a man in uniform.

I bet you do Big grin

I can see FR/EZY moving more a/c to BOH anyway so it was only time unti it takes over, if not already. SOU doesnt have the space for an LCC to move in...



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User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1410 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 4468 times:

Actually, BE only have one flight a day to IOM, from Birmingham. The Q400 is too big for the SOU-IOM market, they will not take the route up.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 4435 times:

Quoting HUYfan (Reply 8):
The Q400 is too big for the SOU-IOM market, they will not take the route up.

Eastern ? , with a J31 ?

About time they came "Darn Sarff"



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 4411 times:

Yes the SOU-IOM would suit Eastern and the J31/J41 would be the right sized aircraft.

Watch out though, ex Euromanxs passengers, Eastern can not in any way, be considered Low Fare!!


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 4401 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 10):
Watch out though, ex Euromanxs passengers, Eastern can not in any way, be considered Low Fare!!

As has been explained to you previously - by several others, and myself - Eastern targets particular market segments, i.e. those who travel for business and those who have no option but to fly. Sure, its airfares aren't cheap, but then they don't need to be.

Furthermore, Euromanx's airfares are certainly not cheap - a day-return to Belfast will cost £174 for two 35-minute flights; to Liverpool £124 for two 30-minute flights; to Manchester for £173 for two 45-minute flights - yet one could argue that they do, in general, target slightly different market segments than Eastern. Nevertheless, if people must pay the price, i.e. due to a lack of alternative (A2B, for instance, also flies IOM-Belfast) or preference or whatever, then they will pay it.

---

Quoted prices from its website and based on the 1st November.

[Edited 2005-09-26 17:18:37]


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User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1410 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 4376 times:

On the good side, BE is adding Palma next summer.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineGg190 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 4355 times:

Eastern would also provide a far more reliable service than Euromanx.

User currently offlineBDRules From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 1501 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 2 hours ago) and read 4244 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 11):
Furthermore, Euromanx's airfares are certainly not cheap - a day-return to Belfast will cost £174 for two 35-minute flights; to Liverpool £124 for two 30-minute flights; to Manchester for £173 for two 45-minute flights

Have you seen how much Eastern charge???? EMA - ABZ day return costs £357.00 for just over an hour each way. thats a mid week fare. weekends i have seen £500.00 + rtn. that is why we love fr sooooo much eh  Wink

BTW how are you. it has been a long time since i posted. busy in australia working


User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 2 hours ago) and read 4174 times:

Quoting BDRules (Reply 14):

My Dad flew Eastern Airways from EDI-Norwich on business and it cost the company £680 return.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 1 hour ago) and read 4126 times:

Whilst £0.99 each way fares are great for you, me and many others, as Pe@rson quite rightly said, Eastern Airways cater for a completely different market to the LCC's and it would be inaccurate to try and compare them with the likes of FR,U2, et al. T3 is a successful niche player as it has targeted routes which have a modest yet regular business customer base. It's customers are prepared and able to pay for the convenience of flying T3's routes. Remember that time is money! Some of the fares quoted here by others I suspect are the ones with very few restrictions, hence £680 for EDI-NWI, which can otherwise be purchased for a much lower price.

I agree with others that T3 are the ideal candidate to take over SOU-IOM since they already have a sizeable operation at both airports and there is a proven, steady, regular demand for a J41 sized aircraft on the route.

[Edited 2005-09-26 20:13:20]


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User currently offlineGreenjet From Ireland, joined Aug 2001, 959 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 1 hour ago) and read 4069 times:

Aer Arann could be interested in IOM-SOU. They already serve SOU from ORK and are currently focusing on IOM for future growth.

User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4000 times:

AE have just announced IOM-MAN as well, almost like a final push to get rid of EuroManx!


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User currently offlineBmiBaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3845 times:

Hey

Tickets are on sale for Bournemouth-Paderborn,

Times are:

PAD-BOH 0700 0720
BOH-PAD 0805 1030

Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday

Flights start December.


Jimmi


User currently offlineFlycro From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3727 times:

Euromanx is a gimmick airline, they were supposed to start Southampton flights to Eindhoven, Dusseldorf and Vienna aswell!! SOU can live without a fly by night operation. The loss of Air Berlin is a bit of a worry though, especially as it's moved along the coast to BOH with the same ferquencies. Given time i'm sure AB could have offered a few flights a week to the likes of Berlin, Hamburg and Munich from Southampton.

Flybe will hopefully offer a few new routes next year to complimiment PMI. Faro is a possibility.


User currently offlineGg190 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3715 times:

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 18):
AE have just announced IOM-MAN as well, almost like a final push to get rid of EuroManx!

Lets hope they suceed.


User currently offlineDrinkstrolley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3582 times:

Quoting BmiBaby737 (Reply 19):
Tickets are on sale for Bournemouth-Paderborn

Is this still Air Berlin 'cos you can book through Lauda Air (www.flyniki.com) or is this on codeshare?


User currently offlineAtco2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 1114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3474 times:

Quoting BmiBaby737 (Reply 19):
Flights start December.

I heard November 1st...



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3444 times:

Quoting Drinkstrolley (Reply 22):
Quoting BmiBaby737 (Reply 19):
Tickets are on sale for Bournemouth-Paderborn

Is this still Air Berlin 'cos you can book through Lauda Air (www.flyniki.com) or is this on codeshare?

AB owns 24% of HG.
HG uses AB´s booking engine.
Flights to BOH are AB 8116 and 8117.

EDIT:

Quoting Atco2b (Reply 23):
Quoting BmiBaby737 (Reply 19):
Flights start December.

I heard November 1st...

According to AB´s website: 17-DEC for days 1 and 6.
Day 4 only during holiday season and then from 16-FEB onwards.

END of EDIT
-HT

[Edited 2005-09-30 10:05:52]


Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
25 Scottiedog : The problem with Air Berlin in the Manchester area - where the announced a raft of new services - is that they do not appear to have done very much lo
26 MainMAN : Over the winter, they're maintaining 3 a week to Hamburg and 4 to Paderborn from MAN. I expect the return of TXL next summer........? They've done a
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