Lrgt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 710 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4064 times:
Quoting Danny (Reply 1): They are not yet in revenue service and as far as I know the routes have not been announced yet.
There was a picture on here of the plane flying from MCO. MCO-BUF????
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4044 times:
Quoting Lrgt (Reply 2): There was a picture on here of the plane flying from MCO. MCO-BUF????
Promotions most likely. I remember reading that they will not enter service until November sometime.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3937 times:
Quoting BHMNONREV (Reply 4): I may be mistaken, but isn't the IFE installation being performed in MCO??
ASFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 911 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3913 times:
I heard from someone in the Jet Blue inflight department that, because Jet Blue is so busy with initial training classes for the F/A's, they are unable to get the existing F/A's into training classes for the E190 so they don't currently have any F/A's trained on it. No F/A's means no revenue service. Though Jet Blue's F/A's are not union which means they could potentially just train the new hires on this aircraft and give them E190 lines out of seniority order right out of training without any repercussions.
Bomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 368 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3890 times:
What routs of B6's, if any, aren't filling up to their full potential. I would imagine that if there are any of these routs where an A320 is not filling close to the maximum capacity that these aircraft would replace the A320 on these routs for the time being. Could this be the case with the first couple of months of 190 service at B6? Also, shouldn't B6 announce new routs fairly soon if they plan to fill up aircraft?
Richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4036 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3828 times:
Isn't there a thread about this topic just about every week? I'm guessing the initial E190 routes haven't been announced yet otherwise everybody in here would know by now.
FA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3693 times:
Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 6): I heard from someone in the Jet Blue inflight department that, because Jet Blue is so busy with initial training classes for the F/A's, they are unable to get the existing F/A's into training classes for the E190 so they don't currently have any F/A's trained on it. No F/A's means no revenue service. Though Jet Blue's F/A's are not union which means they could potentially just train the new hires on this aircraft and give them E190 lines out of seniority order right out of training without any repercussions.
This is very incorrect. They can't go ahead with training current F/A's on the 190 until some other steps have been taken such as the FAA unplanned land evac, the FAA planned dicthing, and proving runs. Once that's all completed, E190 training can begin, and the E190 training will be rolling meaning you can choose to get trained on it now or later.
Whoever you spoke to in our Inflight department obviously has no idea what they are talking about.
Bomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 368 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3469 times:
Quoting Richierich (Reply 8): Oh man - please check your spelling a little. The word is spelled "routes"....
Tried to, but spell check seemes to be not working. But you're right, I should have checked my spelling myself. My bad.
B6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 813 posts, RR: 12 Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3116 times:
Quoting F27XXX (Reply 12): OK i know i'm alone here, but whats aall the ooh-ing and aaahhh-ing over this one? This is one of THE most generic boring looking planes in the sky.
its all in the fun of speculation. after 2 yrs of waiting we've finally received the first of the many planes coming to us. now we're just waiting to get the official word of where these planes are going. its actually a really nice looking aircraft. looking forward to being a passenger on it one of these days.
within the next cpl weeks we should start hearing about the first flights where these birds are going to!
Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10850 posts, RR: 100 Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3113 times:
Quoting BHMNONREV (Reply 4): This may be the most closely guarded secret in the airline industry...lol
Its why we have a thread a week on this!
Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 9): They can't go ahead with training current F/A's on the 190 until some other steps have been taken such as the FAA unplanned land evac, the FAA planned dicthing, and proving runs. Once that's all completed, E190 training can begin, and the E190 training will be rolling meaning you can choose to get trained on it now or later.
Thanks for the update. Can you tell us the progress on the other steps? With the delay in delivery, has the first service dates been pushed back?
Quoting Bomber996 (Reply 10): Tried to, but spell check seemes to be not working.
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having problems.
You'd better! lol Seriously, its the economics, range, and market opening potential that make the E190 exciting. I'm sorry to say that being photogenic wasn't a design criteria.
Initally B6 had claimed the E190 CASM would be 1.0 cents more than the A320. Is that still true with today's oil prices? (Or at least close, say 1.2 cents more?)
Now another question, does anyone know what proving runs are being done? Hmmm? That would be a good hint of the first year routes!
Legacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2545 times:
Dlx737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1850 posts, RR: 23 Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2184 times:
Quoting BHMNONREV (Reply 4): I may be mistaken, but isn't the IFE installation being performed in MCO??
Yeah that was my shot. B6 brings all the new planes to MCO to have PTVs installed. It was a test flight around Central Florida when I got the shot.
-Justin
The public: They always know better, even though they often know nothing
Lrgt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 710 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2095 times:
Quoting B6FA4ever (Reply 13): its actually a really nice looking aircraft. looking forward to being a passenger on it one of these days.
Great (comfortable) aircraft for the pax....the seats are between the width of business class on an DC9 and coach