B742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3820 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7268 times:
I also miss the MD-11 alot!
AMS used to be a MD-11 hub, with KL, JL, BR, and RG operating there, now only KL and RG!
Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 4): Let us praise Thai for painting HS-TMD into the new colourscheme and prominently sending it all over the world. I was lucky enough to finally picture her last Friday on its course to ZRH.
I agree well done TG!
Thanks also to AY for keeping the MD11 in their fleet
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7781 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7182 times:
Quoting B742 (Reply 5): AMS used to be a MD-11 hub, with KL, JL, BR, and RG operating there, now only KL and RG!
Don't forget to add Thai and Mandarin airlines to that list ...
The MD11 is a wonderful aircraft. I've spent so many enjoyable hours flying over the North Atlantic in her. An absolute breathtaking design, inside and out, one that just shouts long haul! Its just a real shame that the MD11 doesn't always get the respect she deserves. My two most favourite modern aircraft are the MD11 and A340, I just don't find twins appealing, they're so boring and look so much alike.
Of course, the DC10 and the magnificent L1011 are not to be forgotten. My very first flight was on board an AC DC8 (DUS-YYZ, YYZ-LHR, FRA-YYZ), but I don't remember too much of that as I was too young. Flying on a LH DC10 (YYZ-FRA-YYZ) a couple of years later was my first real aviation memory, I remember everything about that flight. A few years later, on board an AC L1011 (YVR-LHR-DUS-LHR-YVR), I went up front and got to sit in the captains seat as we were flying over Greenland, and that was the moment I knew that all I wanted to was fly! When I first flew on an MD11 (KLM PH-KCA / YVR-AMS) back in January of 1996, I fell in love with her right away and have since flown in the MD11 so often and can't wait to travel with her again.
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7781 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7012 times:
Here's a shot taken from my last MD11 flight in May of this year. KLM / AMS-YVR / PH-KCB. What made this flight so enjoyable was when we were over Greenland the Captain made a series of banks to the left and right for about half an hour to allow us a better view. He also came back into the cabin and chatted with us for awhile, not to mention being able to go up front for a quick visit!
GlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6836 times:
I flew the MD-11 the first time at age 15 in 1994. It was the brandnew PH-KCA from KLM; AUA-CCS-AMS.
Now as an employee for KLM I get the opportunity to non-rev a lot. As my station (Aruba / AUA) gets a daily MD-11, I'm on the aircraft practically everyday. I flew on all 10 MD-11's that KLM has.
I also flew on MD-11's by AA, DL and MP. In 1997 I flew a MD-11 from VASP (VP) AUA-MAO-GRU.... however that MD-11 was leased from KLM... the PH-KCI (Mother Teresa). I remember it well, because when the aircraft was returned to KLM after the lease, it did not have any personal video screens in World Business Class. Everytime the PH-KCI came to AUA, we had to inform the C-class pax of the lack of PTV's.
Here are my pics I took on a flight 2 weeks ago. KL0734 AUA-AMS (PH-KCF). Enjoy!
In-flight above the Atlantic
Coast of Holland
Globe Trekker / AUA
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NYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 693 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6336 times:
The MD-11 was a great airplane for flight attendants- a roomy, comfortable cabin, big galleys in business class and coach, a quiet crew rest area. We had a lot of fun on that plane at American. But the mechanics didn't. It used to be nicknamed the MD-Lemon! And they used to joke around when we first got them in '91 and '92 that they were going to paint them blue to match AA's ground equipment!
MD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2793 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6298 times:
For a "MD-Lemon", there sure are many of the original frames still dependably and profitably flying to this day. And they will be flying around 20 years from now when most all of it's competitors will be resting in the desert. Cheers!!!
Dougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6228 times:
Quoting NYCAAer (Reply 20): The MD-11 was a great airplane for flight attendants- a roomy, comfortable cabin, big galleys in business class and coach, a quiet crew rest area. We had a lot of fun on that plane at American. But the mechanics didn't. It used to be nicknamed the MD-Lemon! And they used to joke around when we first got them in '91 and '92 that they were going to paint them blue to match AA's ground equipment!
About two weeks before an MD11 was going to be delivered to AA they'd send a team of their "quality assurance" inspectors to look over the aircraft, They'd proceed to write hundreds of specious "defect reports" that were designed to beat Douglas down on the price...whether the aircraft had anything wrong with it or not wasn't the issue because the people they sent were tasked to generate a blizzard of paper. The feeling was mutual...a lot of stuff got pencil whipped and your mechs got to fix it.
On the other hand....Swissair was a top notch organization from start to finish. Their reps were all master mechanics-working stiffs who'd practiced their chops a long time ago. They were with the aircraft from the time the first metal was cut at vendors facilities.
One night a Swissair rep walked up to me and wrote out a defect report (DISR) on a soon to be delivered MD11 that indicated that a certain cotter pin was improperly inserted in a castle nut inside one of the pylons. I asked him how he knew this because he was in street clothes. He said "Well, it was that way at Rohr when they built this pylon a year ago, I wrote this report then, they didn't do anything, and now we need it fixed."
It took removing a series of cover plates and panels and two mirrors to see where the castle nut was and it was exactly as described. I do not know how in the heck a mechanic was able to fix it but it did get fixed.
Another thing Swissair did was when a ship would get sent to Switzerland is they'd take it apart-all the panels and floors, remove all the FOD and debris they could find and crate it up and send it to Robert Hood, the CEO at the time...it was usually a pretty large box that had some interesting stuff in it-I have my own small collection of things I found during closeout inspections out on the flight line-several bucking bars and a bootleg right angle drill motor come to mind. I found a nice set of Wiss shears behind the main wiring bundle on a Delta ship one night. They belonged to Eli Green. Eli, Ive still got your shears.
So...if you were shopping for a used MD11, Swissair would be the way to go.
IDISA From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days ago) and read 5424 times:
Actually I think I'm very lucky to see many of them everyday at MXP. Alitalia still flies two MD11 Combi (I-DUPO and I-DUPU) to BOM and IAD and it's always a breathtaking moment to see them take off at maximum weight and roar over my head. It is also great to see their cargo capacity in the all-freighter version as long as it's always a pleasure to talk about these machines with crews before and after flights.
Here at MXP also Fedex, Thai and Varig operates with M11, so everyday 4 or 5 of those beautiful birds can be easily seen.
For those of you M11 fans: come visit Malpensa!!
: Indeed a great aircraft. I miss those Swissair, Swiss and JAL MD-11's too. I hope still being able to go on a Varig, KLM, Thai and Air Namibia soon.
: May I take this opportunity to ask something I've wondered since joining Airliners.net. The MD-11 seems not to be popular with airlines--why?
: The original Asian airlines that wanted the airplane on trans Pacific routes gave up on the MD-11's when their requested long range and fuel economy c
: I'm not sure who flies the MD11 here in Sao Paulo anymore, besides Varig. I miss seeing Delta's. Of course my hometown of Memphis is loaded with them