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I Miss The MD11  
User currently offlineBigginhill From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 32 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6912 times:

Just sitting in my garden watching the planes stack at Biggin Hill. I noticed how most aircraft looked the same. Then absolute joy as an MD11 flew low over my house on approach to LHR.

What a beautiful aircraft this was!

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User currently offlineMFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6900 times:

Yes it is, I remember still back in '95 when I flew from JFK-FCO on AZ.


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User currently offlineEGFF From UK - Wales, joined Sep 2001, 2201 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6896 times:

I have to agree with you here, from the days when i was at LHR every other week i used to love it when RG came in with the MD-11, such a nice aircraft and for me very photogenic.

Shaun



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User currently offlinePopfly From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6874 times:

Indeed! The MD-11 is a real eye catcher. It's also one of the truly photogenic airplanes: there aren't too many bad photos of it in the airliners.net photo file.

User currently offlineHBIHLtoEZE From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 281 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6806 times:

Yeah, I miss them, too.

I am glad to have flown on them six (TG, KL, LX) times.

Let us praise Thai for painting HS-TMD into the new colourscheme and prominently sending it all over the world. I was lucky enough to finally picture her last Friday on its course to ZRH.

But, there is hope, even though they are gradually vanishing from passenger sevice, they are receiving a second life as freighters.

Frankfurt for example is a great airport to spot those nice three-holers (LH Cargo, FX, World Airways), and Memphis is probably the biggest MD-11F heaven in the world.

The day the three-holers stop flying, aviation's most gracious dignity dies...hopefully, it will not happen in my lifetime.

Cheers, on the MD-11 and the DC-10,too.


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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6815 times:

I also miss the MD-11 alot!

AMS used to be a MD-11 hub, with KL, JL, BR, and RG operating there, now only KL and RG!

Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 4):
Let us praise Thai for painting HS-TMD into the new colourscheme and prominently sending it all over the world. I was lucky enough to finally picture her last Friday on its course to ZRH.

I agree Big grin well done TG!

Thanks also to AY for keeping the MD11 in their fleet Big grin

Rob!  Smile


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6729 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 5):
AMS used to be a MD-11 hub, with KL, JL, BR, and RG operating there, now only KL and RG!

Don't forget to add Thai and Mandarin airlines to that list ...  Wink

The MD11 is a wonderful aircraft. I've spent so many enjoyable hours flying over the North Atlantic in her. An absolute breathtaking design, inside and out, one that just shouts long haul! Its just a real shame that the MD11 doesn't always get the respect she deserves. My two most favourite modern aircraft are the MD11 and A340, I just don't find twins appealing, they're so boring and look so much alike.

Of course, the DC10 and the magnificent L1011 are not to be forgotten. My very first flight was on board an AC DC8 (DUS-YYZ, YYZ-LHR, FRA-YYZ), but I don't remember too much of that as I was too young. Flying on a LH DC10 (YYZ-FRA-YYZ) a couple of years later was my first real aviation memory, I remember everything about that flight. A few years later, on board an AC L1011 (YVR-LHR-DUS-LHR-YVR), I went up front and got to sit in the captains seat as we were flying over Greenland, and that was the moment I knew that all I wanted to was fly! When I first flew on an MD11 (KLM PH-KCA / YVR-AMS) back in January of 1996, I fell in love with her right away and have since flown in the MD11 so often and can't wait to travel with her again.


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User currently offlineCORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6616 times:

Definetly gotta love those MD-11's. I don't understand why there aren't more MD-11's still in service instead of those God awful DC10-30's......  Confused

Here it is in my favorite livery........  bigthumbsup 

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/CORULEZ05/235195.jpg


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6583 times:

I remember mowing the lawn and seeing a Swiss MD-11 fly over (out of ORD). It was two weeks before they stopped service, so I felt pretty lucky!

User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6559 times:

Here's a shot taken from my last MD11 flight in May of this year. KLM / AMS-YVR / PH-KCB. What made this flight so enjoyable was when we were over Greenland the Captain made a series of banks to the left and right for about half an hour to allow us a better view. He also came back into the cabin and chatted with us for awhile, not to mention being able to go up front for a quick visit!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/alizee340/ResizeofIMG_0413.jpg



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User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1367 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6455 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 5):
AMS used to be a MD-11 hub, with KL, JL, BR, and RG operating there, now only KL and RG

Don't forget DL served AMS with the MD-11 as well.

I love the fact that I work for an almost all MD-11 carrier, minus our three DC10's, I've got enough MD-11s to go around  Smile


User currently offlineJeffry747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6441 times:
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If you wanna see some MD-11s, SDF is a good place to go. UPS parks several of them on Ramp 11, right along side Runway 35L.


C'mon Big B, FLY!
User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6389 times:

I remember my first long haul flight was on a CP DC-10, HKG-YVR. I remember the plane quite well, in their old livery, of course, and that brownish interior, IIRC.....

User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6383 times:

I flew the MD-11 the first time at age 15 in 1994. It was the brandnew PH-KCA from KLM; AUA-CCS-AMS.

Now as an employee for KLM I get the opportunity to non-rev a lot. As my station (Aruba / AUA) gets a daily MD-11, I'm on the aircraft practically everyday. I flew on all 10 MD-11's that KLM has.

I also flew on MD-11's by AA, DL and MP. In 1997 I flew a MD-11 from VASP (VP) AUA-MAO-GRU.... however that MD-11 was leased from KLM... the PH-KCI (Mother Teresa). I remember it well, because when the aircraft was returned to KLM after the lease, it did not have any personal video screens in World Business Class. Everytime the PH-KCI came to AUA, we had to inform the C-class pax of the lack of PTV's.

Here are my pics I took on a flight 2 weeks ago. KL0734 AUA-AMS (PH-KCF). Enjoy!


In-flight above the Atlantic


Over England


Coast of Holland


Final approach

Globe Trekker / AUA



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User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6341 times:

NGO has been lacking MD11s of late. It has been sad. RG, JL, TG, and DL all flew MD11s here until about 2000.

Now...none. But.....Happily Finnair will be coming in with MD11s starting in June.



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6317 times:

Quoting GlobeTrekker (Reply 13):
I flew on all 10 MD-11's that KLM has.

So far, I've been on:
PH-KCA
PH-KCB
PH-KCC
PH-KCD
PH-KCF
All of them on the AMS-YVR-AMS route and several times on each bird.  Smile



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5331 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6233 times:

Great looking bird I agree!

Never flown on one though.

AKL gets TG MD11's for a few more weeks saw one today in the old colours, then replaced by the A346!

Previously we have had scheduled service from, LH Cargo, KE, GA and BR. Think thats it. And some charters from WO, FX.


User currently offlineVunz From Netherlands, joined Jun 2001, 360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6129 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 5):
AMS used to be a MD-11 hub, with KL, JL, BR, and RG operating there, now only KL and RG!

And of course MP!


User currently offlinePersotvik From Norway, joined Nov 1999, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6047 times:

Hi 

Here is a picture from my flight with RG AMS-CDG this summer. What a wonderful bird this is!!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Trhgutt/Aircraft%20photos/RGAMS-CDG.jpg

I was travelling Business Class on this ex LX aircraft:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Trhgutt/Aircraft%20photos/MD11C-Kabin.jpg

Per
TRD

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[Edited 2005-09-27 11:29:34]


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User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5931 times:

Nice to see the rebirth as a cargo conversion and one of the most sought after airframes these days.


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User currently offlineNYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 692 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5883 times:

The MD-11 was a great airplane for flight attendants- a roomy, comfortable cabin, big galleys in business class and coach, a quiet crew rest area. We had a lot of fun on that plane at American. But the mechanics didn't. It used to be nicknamed the MD-Lemon! And they used to joke around when we first got them in '91 and '92 that they were going to paint them blue to match AA's ground equipment!

User currently offlineMD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5845 times:

For a "MD-Lemon", there sure are many of the original frames still dependably and profitably flying to this day. And they will be flying around 20 years from now when most all of it's competitors will be resting in the desert. Cheers!!!  cool 

User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5775 times:

Quoting NYCAAer (Reply 20):
The MD-11 was a great airplane for flight attendants- a roomy, comfortable cabin, big galleys in business class and coach, a quiet crew rest area. We had a lot of fun on that plane at American. But the mechanics didn't. It used to be nicknamed the MD-Lemon! And they used to joke around when we first got them in '91 and '92 that they were going to paint them blue to match AA's ground equipment!

About two weeks before an MD11 was going to be delivered to AA they'd send a team of their "quality assurance" inspectors to look over the aircraft, They'd proceed to write hundreds of specious "defect reports" that were designed to beat Douglas down on the price...whether the aircraft had anything wrong with it or not wasn't the issue because the people they sent were tasked to generate a blizzard of paper. The feeling was mutual...a lot of stuff got pencil whipped and your mechs got to fix it.

On the other hand....Swissair was a top notch organization from start to finish. Their reps were all master mechanics-working stiffs who'd practiced their chops a long time ago. They were with the aircraft from the time the first metal was cut at vendors facilities.

One night a Swissair rep walked up to me and wrote out a defect report (DISR) on a soon to be delivered MD11 that indicated that a certain cotter pin was improperly inserted in a castle nut inside one of the pylons. I asked him how he knew this because he was in street clothes. He said "Well, it was that way at Rohr when they built this pylon a year ago, I wrote this report then, they didn't do anything, and now we need it fixed."

It took removing a series of cover plates and panels and two mirrors to see where the castle nut was and it was exactly as described. I do not know how in the heck a mechanic was able to fix it but it did get fixed.

Another thing Swissair did was when a ship would get sent to Switzerland is they'd take it apart-all the panels and floors, remove all the FOD and debris they could find and crate it up and send it to Robert Hood, the CEO at the time...it was usually a pretty large box that had some interesting stuff in it-I have my own small collection of things I found during closeout inspections out on the flight line-several bucking bars and a bootleg right angle drill motor come to mind. I found a nice set of Wiss shears behind the main wiring bundle on a Delta ship one night. They belonged to Eli Green. Eli, Ive still got your shears.

So...if you were shopping for a used MD11, Swissair would be the way to go.

How do I know this? I was there.


User currently offlineIdlewild From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5245 times:
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Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 21):

It seems most Douglas aircraft have a high life cycle. They are good work horses. I'm sorry to see the DC-10 as well as MD-11 pax planes go.


User currently offlineIDISA From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4971 times:

Actually I think I'm very lucky to see many of them everyday at MXP. Alitalia still flies two MD11 Combi (I-DUPO and I-DUPU) to BOM and IAD and it's always a breathtaking moment to see them take off at maximum weight and roar over my head. It is also great to see their cargo capacity in the all-freighter version as long as it's always a pleasure to talk about these machines with crews before and after flights.
Here at MXP also Fedex, Thai and Varig operates with M11, so everyday 4 or 5 of those beautiful birds can be easily seen.
For those of you M11 fans: come visit Malpensa!!  bigthumbsup 


Cheers
IDISA


25 Swissgabe : Indeed a great aircraft. I miss those Swissair, Swiss and JAL MD-11's too. I hope still being able to go on a Varig, KLM, Thai and Air Namibia soon.
26 Tarheel : May I take this opportunity to ask something I've wondered since joining Airliners.net. The MD-11 seems not to be popular with airlines--why?
27 AV757 : The original Asian airlines that wanted the airplane on trans Pacific routes gave up on the MD-11's when their requested long range and fuel economy c
28 Sampa737 : I'm not sure who flies the MD11 here in Sao Paulo anymore, besides Varig. I miss seeing Delta's. Of course my hometown of Memphis is loaded with them
29 Post contains links and images Logan22L : For me, this Finnair MD-11 was the surprise highlight of the NYC meet back in August. Nice shot by Joe Wagner. View Large View MediumPhoto © Jose
30 Post contains images Eilennaei : It seems not everyone wants a positive development of the share price. AY trends (www.finnair.com)
31 Flying Belgian : The MD11 is a beauty it's fact !!! We will all miss this unique design. FB.
32 JZ : Alas, we at JFK area are still blessed with the daily AY MD-11, along with periodical Fedex and Gemini freighters. With their solid construction, I am
33 Post contains links and images Ariis : Hi there, also in my opinion MD-11 is one of the best looking airplanes around, ever. I had that honor and pleasure to fly three times on MD-11. First
34 Post contains links and images CV990 : Hi! I surely miss the MD11 around the world more and more! I only flew in a MD11 once, but I think in those 12:45 minutes I was in that plane I rememb
35 Dougloid : You have to go back to the way they were built...DAC used a truly antiquated system of building airplanes...all hand shot holes and fasteners....Of c
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