MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 30435 posts, RR: 77 Posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2573 times:
Domodedovo Airlines today applied with the US DOT to begin scheduled non-stop service between Moscow's Domodedovo airport and Miami beginning on or about 1 April 2006. Domodedovo Airlines intends to operate the service thrice-weekly using IL-96 aircraft, making this one of only two scheduled services to the United States on Russian aircraft (the other being Magadan Airways scheduled Anchorage service). They had originally intended to offer only charter service, though that has changed. They have also put off plans to enter the New York market, probably brought forth because of Continental's plans to enter Newark-Moscow in 2006.
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5223 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2500 times:
I think this airline should fly to the West Coast, perhaps LAX, SFO or SEA.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 30435 posts, RR: 77 Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2494 times:
Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 2): I think this airline should fly to the West Coast, perhaps LAX, SFO or SEA.
I think they are trying to tap into unserved markets. Seattle and Los Angeles already have Moscow service. I think Chicago would be a logical market for them to look into.
Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 10514 posts, RR: 51 Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2446 times:
Hopefully their Il-96s won't still be grounded, otherwise I think they'll struggle!
I was in Moscow in August when the grounding came in to effect and E3 were pressing some of their old Il-62s back in to service. I doubt they'd be allowed to use those monsters to MIA.
You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 30435 posts, RR: 77 Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2433 times:
Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4): Hopefully their Il-96s won't still be grounded, otherwise I think they'll struggle!
Are they still grounded? I didn't know that.
In addition, to note, there has been some rumours that they will operate MIA-DME 2w and MIA-LED-DME 1w. They have requested broad Miami-Russia authority for this purpose.
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2381 times:
If anything they should fly LED-EWR (or JFK), NOT LED-MIA, making one of their DME-EWR (or JFK) flights run via LED. I think St. Petersburg-New York has huge potential, and am surprised noone has jumped on it.
-Mr. X
Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 10514 posts, RR: 51 Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2375 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5): Are they still grounded? I didn't know that.
I'm assuming so - I haven't seen anything to the contrary.
It is quite surprising where Russians go on their holidays. Turkey is very popular, as are the Maldives. There were lots of Russians when my wife and I went to the Maldives for Easter. I remember seeing Kras and Transaero 767s at MLE. I imagine Florida would be a popular destination for Russians (especially in Winter!)
You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 30435 posts, RR: 77 Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2313 times:
Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 6): If anything they should fly LED-EWR (or JFK), NOT LED-MIA, making one of their DME-EWR (or JFK) flights run via LED. I think St. Petersburg-New York has huge potential, and am surprised noone has jumped on it.
Domodedovo Airlines has canceled plans to fly to New York City to concentrate on Miami. MIA-LED could work for them simply for the fact that they are a holiday airline.
KFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3236 posts, RR: 38 Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2211 times:
3x weekly IL-96 service to MIA? One word: Wow!
"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
TWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2988 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2103 times:
Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 6): I think St. Petersburg-New York has huge potential, and am surprised noone has jumped on it.
-Mr. X
Aeroflot operated JFK-LED with A310 for awhile - once or twice a week, id say five years ago.
'902
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UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1961 times:
I rememebr that back in the day. I think cutting ORD and JFK-LED, (and YUL to ane xtent) were too radical. I think YUL could work (even tho UN is failing, SU has quite a following) once or twice a week, bring back ORD with the 76ers 3 times a week and you can even use cx traffic and bring back JFK-LED once or twice a week.
-Mr. X
ZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5464 posts, RR: 46 Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1947 times:
Wow an Il-96! I would love to see any Russian or Ukranian (Antonov) airliner here in Zurich. In the 1980ties we had here regulary some Tu 134 and 154. This makes spotting more interesting, not only A and B and some regional aircrafts. Now we only have very seldom an An-124.
MIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1852 times:
Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4): was in Moscow in August when the grounding came in to effect and E3 were pressing some of their old Il-62s back in to service. I doubt they'd be allowed to use those monsters to MIA.
Nope unless hushkitted to meet stage III noise levels. I heard the ones that fly for the Russian State Transport Airline aren't too loud, so probably hushkitted. Are there any other IL-62s hushkitted?
Im not sure if Aeroflot had 2x daily flights on some days to Miami but I remember once in 1994 I saw two IL62s on adjacent gates at MIA. They also flew the IL-62s to Orlando during the mid-90s. I have no idea the loads on these flights, don't think the yield could have been that great.
Let's hope this new Miami service is not just a tease, seeing IL-96s at Miami would be sweet
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5223 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1776 times:
I have a picture of an IL-62 at MCO and I remember the howl of the engines. I also have pictures of the IL-62's and IL-96's here on the US west coast. I had heard that SU and Mavial used to fly TU-154M's to SEA from the Russian Far East.
Repeating someone else here, I would love to see additional Russian planes here on regularly scheduled US routes.
BigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1639 times:
Quoting Scbriml (Reply 7): Are they still grounded? I didn't know that.
I'm assuming so - I haven't seen anything to the contrary
I thought I read on here yesterday that the ban had been lifted now. Could be wrong though!
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 30435 posts, RR: 77 Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1572 times:
Quoting Tailfin (Reply 19): It may then operate via Shannon as did the Aeroflot service way back when...('via intermediate points')
I doubt it. Almost all airlines ask for "via intermediate points" when applying for new routes just for the sake of having it just incase. The flights will be non-stop, most likely.
MIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1300 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1496 times:
Very cool! would love to see MIA get Russia service once again... I know all my Russian friends up in Sunny Isles would love it.
Surprising AEROFLOT did not ask for this before? Specially after they left...
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 6801 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1376 times:
Quoting the article, " The company is considering using a Yiuslin IL-96-300, an aircraft resembling a Boeing 767 that seats 300" .
Ummm,yeah,okay....I've seen lots of 4-engined 767's
Anyways,I'de love to see a -96 in the USA ! It would be worth a trip down there . Hope it happens ,and happens with the -96.
'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
PlanenutzTB From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 256 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1339 times:
I'm looking forward to flying on the IL-96. We were planning a trip to Russia next summer. Now I know how I will be flying there. The other good news with this is flying to DME and not SVO to connect to other flights in Russia.
I am extraordinarily patient, provided I get my own way in the end.
Afay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1292 posts, RR: 3 Reply 25, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1199 times:
I had no idea they had this, but it seems they now have PTVs on all the IL-96 and IL62M aircraft in their flight in business class, and LCD main displays in the economy cabin. I guess they should be added to the next PTV thread...
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