8B775ZQ From St. Kitts and Nevis, joined Aug 2005, 191 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3852 times:
The dash-8 and atr42/72 turboprop aircraft families have been around for something like 20 years.Is there any plans to replace these aircraft and what do you think the next generation turboprop aircraft will be like.
Btriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 9 Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3836 times:
What next generation turboprop? Jets have taken over.
Legacy135 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1052 posts, RR: 28 Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3812 times:
I am not sure if there is a market to develop a new generation of turboprop aircrafts. I rather think that for the demand remaining they will update the designs of the actul planes manufactured as DHC-8 and ATR's.
Looking at corporate aircrafts, basically all turboprops except the King Air went out of production. They all are replaced by jets. Planes as the PC-12 or the TBM 700 are actual replacements for former piston twins or King Airs.
I am quite sure that this will happend anything similar to the regionals.
Dogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3803 times:
DLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3768 times:
Why replace something that doesn't need replacing? The Q3 and 400 still have plenty of life left in them and are still the most efficient way to transport 50 and 70 people 500 miles.
ZSOFN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1394 posts, RR: 7 Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3724 times:
There's the whole prop-fan thing. That's certainly popular here at the Aero Eng dept in Bristol Uni.
Reason is the limiting factor of turboprops is that they lose efficiency dramatically at high mach numbers, so airspeed is limited. But if a new system can be developed that has the efficiency and low maintenance cost of a turboprop but can operate at high mach numbers then it'll be a serious breakthrough. If/when it happens, expect a flood of new propfan/turboprop aircraft on the market.
MasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 4751 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3413 times:
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 1): My guess is that it will have many of the features of this aircraf
"this aircraf" = EADS A-400.
I doubt it. The commercial world has seen very few C-130s, which various air forces consider an efficient plane. Military aircraft are hugely and expensively over-engineered for the commercial market (and probably for the military market as well). A successful commercial-to-military conversion is common; the reverse is very rare outside of Russia.
Glom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2803 posts, RR: 10 Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3367 times:
I hope there will be next generation turboprops. They are cheap and efficient. They add a little variation to the commercial scene. And best of all, they frighten people who think prop = Wright Flyer.
JBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2281 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3246 times:
I imagine that eventually we'll see development of a next-generation turboprop for the 19-30 seat segment. The Beech 1900 is only going to be around so long, something will have to replace it as there will always be a market for that size of aircraft.
I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
Starlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15904 posts, RR: 66 Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3023 times:
Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 11): Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 1):
My guess is that it will have many of the features of this aircraf
"this aircraf" = EADS A-400.
I doubt it. The commercial world has seen very few C-130s, which various air forces consider an efficient plane. Military aircraft are hugely and expensively over-engineered for the commercial market (and probably for the military market as well). A successful commercial-to-military conversion is common; the reverse is very rare outside of Russia.
Well, I only meant that many of the features would be like on the A-400, that is a totally new turboprop. I didn't say the design would be similar.
Quoting ACJAZZAME (Reply 14):
Last time I started the Dash8 it sounded like a jet.
In most ways, turboprops are closer to turbofans than to reciprocating engine aircraft.
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots." - from Citadel by John Ringo
FriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4015 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3009 times:
MasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 4751 posts, RR: 7 Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2953 times:
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 15): Well, I only meant that many of the features would be like on the A-400, that is a totally new turboprop. I didn't say the design would be similar.
OK, that makes good sense. I expect it will be a smaller plane, though. The Dash 8 400 sales seem to suffer from the anti-prop prejudice in the US - if Bombardier could knock a few million off the price, they might change that.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2935 times:
Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 17): OK, that makes good sense. I expect it will be a smaller plane, though. The Dash 8 400 sales seem to suffer from the anti-prop prejudice in the US - if Bombardier could knock a few million off the price, they might change that.
They also have a strong competitor in the ATR 72-500, wich is slower, but also burns less fuel, and is lighter than the Q400. IIRC the ATR 72 has outsold the Q400 this year.
BlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1736 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2842 times:
Next generation turboprop? Let's see... capacity between 40 and 70 pax, all composite structure, new more efficient engines, cruising speed around 670 - 700 km/h... there you have it. Whoever builds one, will be the winner.
A350 From Germany, joined Nov 2004, 1098 posts, RR: 23 Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2816 times:
With all these LCCs flying around, there might be a market for a 100-seater turboprop. Here in Berlin, there is an invasion of Fokker 100s, and they are all doing short hops for LCCs. Most travellers wouldn't mind if the flight is 5 minutes longer, but they would welcome if it's cheaper. The only problem I see is that Easyjet had to change its name .
A350
Photography - the art of observing, not the art of arranging
Sponsor Message: 
From St. Kitts and Nevis, joined Aug 2005, 191 posts, 
From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15904 posts, 
From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1139 posts, 
From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1052 posts, 
From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, 
From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 35 posts, 
From , joined Dec 1969, posts, 
From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2281 posts, 
From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, 
From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 71 posts, 
From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1736 posts, 
.
Printer friendly format 
