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Austrian Approve 777 Purchase & Fleet Plan  
User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4162 posts, RR: 90
Posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10196 times:
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Just released some more details on Austrian Airlines Fleet plans as approved by the Board today.

Supervisory Board approves purchase of one Boeing 777-200ER and
aircraft sales

In its meeting today, the Supervisory Board of Austrian Airlines AG
approved the application to purchase a Boeing B777-200ER long-range
jet as the first replacement for the sale of two Airbus A340-200
aircraft. The Supervisory Board meeting also granted an application
to sell/market up to three Canadair Regional CRJ 100 short-range jets
and market one Boeing B737-600.


There is more but I don't have full transcript yet.

Regards, PanAm_DC10


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User currently offlineJetMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10126 times:

They only order one B777 as a replacement for two A342? And selling/marketing one B736 means another one is left.  scratchchin 


Regards,
JM


User currently offlineSq212 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10061 times:

Here's the article:

http://www.presseportal.de/story_rss.htx?nr=730557

777 looks great in OS and L4 livery.

Cheers


User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4162 posts, RR: 90
Reply 3, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10034 times:
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Quoting JetMaster (Reply 1):
They only order one B777 as a replacement for two A342? And selling/marketing one B736 means another one is left.

Here is a little more on their reasoning. Please correct me if any details need clarification:

The motive for selling or marketing these aircraft - particularly against the background of the high kerosene prices - is the company19/64s wish to remove uneconomic aircraft types from operation. Due to its lower capacity compared to twin-engined aircraft, the cost per seat of the A340-200 long range jet has risen, for example. The Boeing 737-600 is the last aircraft of this version to be used in the fleet and has in this respect become exotic. Because they use different engines to the CRJ 200 the three CRJ 100 will also be released for sale. These aircraft will be replaced on routes with high load factors by yet operating Fokker 100-Jets with increased capacity.

That is from Mr Thomas Kleibl, Chief Financial Officer. So it seems they only have 1 736 in service.

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineJetMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 9944 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 3):
So it seems they only have 1 736 in service.

I know OE-LNL was leased to the US Navy for some time but returned not long ago. Haven't found any info yet whether it has just returned or really went into service again.


Regards,
JM


User currently offlineYago From Iceland, joined May 2002, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9795 times:

Haven't they got one (or more) ex-Lauda 777 in Austrian coulours now?

That's maybe why they can get rid of two 340.


User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9781 times:

Great news for both Austrian and Boeing, although I'm still puzzled why they are only ordering a single aircraft. From what I read on the above article, they haven't ruled out additional orders. Perhaps a future 787 customer?


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User currently offlineVORFMD From Austria, joined Feb 2005, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9770 times:

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 7):
Perhaps a future 787 customer?

99,99 %


User currently offlineVORFMD From Austria, joined Feb 2005, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9727 times:

Unofficial Insiders Informations.

.) A342 will leave the Fleet as we know
.) 1 x B772 will enter the Fleet
.) all CRJ-100 will leave the Fleet
.) the remaining B736 will leave the Fleet
.) up to 5 additional F100 will join the Fleet
.) The A343 will leave the Fleet in the not to distant Future
.) all A332 will stay
.) B787 will join the Fleet
.) a 7th B763 will join the Fleet by 2006, latest 2007

enjoy


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4750 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9681 times:

Quoting VORFMD (Reply 9):
.) B787 will join the Fleet

Interesting - another potential former A330 operator for the 787.

Personally, I figured OS would be going all ABus.



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User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9644 times:

So if the 7th 767 doesn't arrive in time 2006 OS will have one wide boy less!

In contrast to most comments I can read here I am very sad about this news from OS.


User currently offlineJetMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9635 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):

Personally, I figured OS would be going all ABus.

With B777s and B737NG in the group's fleet that expectation was quite unrealistic.


Regards,
JM


User currently offlineVORFMD From Austria, joined Feb 2005, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9614 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):
Personally, I figured OS would be going all ABus

suprise, suprise "lol"


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4750 posts, RR: 45
Reply 13, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9588 times:

Quoting JetMaster (Reply 12):
With B777s and B737NG in the group's fleet that expectation was quite unrealistic.

I don't think it's all that unrealistic given OS's fleet before integrating Lauda was going all Airbus - look at their past fleet plan. I'm glad they went with more Boeing's!

Then again, I'm happy when any carrier orders Boeing!



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User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9589 times:

Quoting VORFMD (Reply 9):
the remaining B736 will leave the Fleet

Shame. I have a soft spot for the short B737NG.


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Quoting VORFMD (Reply 9):
a 7th B763 will join the Fleet by 2006, latest 2007

Is this going to cover some of the A340s leaving the fleet?

Quoting VORFMD (Reply 9):
B787 will join the Fleet

Well, this is big news. But, with all due respect, I'll believe it when I see the official announcement!

Tony



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User currently offlineVORFMD From Austria, joined Feb 2005, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9579 times:

Quoting JoFMO (Reply 11):
So if the 7th 767 doesn't arrive in time 2006 OS will have one wide boy less!

well, the second A342 is planned to leave the Fleet with beginning of 2007. With that Date OS needs the B763 as they are planning to add HYD or BLR to their network in 2007. No Aircraft no Expansion. Wouldn´t suprise me if OS will take a 5th T7 meanwhile, especially because there a Plans to go VIE-KUL-SYD and VIE-SIN-MEL daily.

Lets see


User currently offlineVORFMD From Austria, joined Feb 2005, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9540 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 15):
Well, this is big news. But, with all due respect, I'll believe it when I see the official announcement!

yes, i for myself have the same feeling but a lot looks like it will happen !


User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9511 times:

Quoting VORFMD (Reply 17):
yes, i for myself have the same feeling but a lot looks like it will happen!

Don't get me wrong! I do wish it happens. And we do appreciate you posting the rumour (nothing better than a good and lengthy "discussion" on the latest "who's next to buy B787s?" rumour!).

Regards,

Tony

[Edited 2005-09-28 16:23:26]


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User currently offlinePaul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9380 times:

Are Lauda going to update their Business Class seats on the T7, or are we stuck with the uncomfy arm chair for another 5 years?

Paul



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User currently offlineTockeyhockey From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 950 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8449 times:

on what routes will they use the newly aquired f-100s?

User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8200 times:

I'm assuming this is the purchase of a "new build" aircraft. Seems unusual to me that the press release is on the Austrian web site, but nothing mentioned on Boeing's site.


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User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2179 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7808 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):
Interesting - another potential former A330 operator for the 787

It seems you missed a crucial piece of information just next to the part you quoted. Quoted below.

Quoting VORFMD (Reply 9):
.) all A332 will stay

Where are their F100 coming from by the way? Nice to see that F100 still has some interest.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26501 posts, RR: 75
Reply 22, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7748 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 15):
Quoting VORFMD (Reply 9):
a 7th B763 will join the Fleet by 2006, latest 2007

Is this going to cover some of the A340s leaving the fleet?

Pretty much. 1 772ER and 1 763ER will cover the capacity pretty much right on and enable more flexibility and efficiency

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 22):
Where are their F100 coming from by the way? Nice to see that F100 still has some interest.

ex-AA/SG I do believe



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User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3329 posts, RR: 20
Reply 23, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5919 times:

Quoting VORFMD (Reply 15):
Wouldn´t suprise me if OS will take a 5th T7 meanwhile, especially because there a Plans to go VIE-KUL-SYD and VIE-SIN-MEL daily.

Is it true that OS is also considering changing the intermediate point on VIE-MEL from SIN to BKK?

As I understand it, the SIN-MEL sector is very competitive, while there is only TG operating BKK-MEL, and OS already operates daily to BKK


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 12 months 21 hours ago) and read 5222 times:

What will happen to the A343 (2 of them), are they to be phased out from the OS fleet??

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25 Aleksandar : Hmm, that seems very interesting. I mean, Boeing fleet were inherited not chosen by Austrian, but it is also nice to see how OS likes them and even w
26 USAF336TFS : We'll have to keep on eye on Boeing's Orders page today to see if the UFO 777 order is identified as OS.
27 Post contains links N328KF : http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2345030
28 Post contains images VORFMD : not heard nothing about this. lets for wait for 2009 !
29 Post contains images OHLHD : You could say 99,9999%. They made a clear statement that the future will be longhaul= all Boeing. That for the lets say the plan for the next 15 year
30 Alitalia744 : Yes, over time they will be phased out. I know you're hurting Solnabo. My condolences.
31 Kaitak : A fine airline; I had a wonderful flight back from Tokyo to VIE a few years back, on OE-LAG, to date my first and only flight on a -200. Although ther
32 Post contains images USAF336TFS : Does OS plan on any further capacity increase, ie addtional 777 orders, in the future? Also, does anyone know why, other then on A.Net and OS's homepa
33 Post contains images VORFMD : you don´t have to wait that long 99,99% depends on their financial situation, but i would say YES. With their Strategy for next 4 - 5 years an Incre
34 Post contains images USAF336TFS : Well that's good news. I'd love to see a 777 in OS colors in JFK someday... Or will it be a 787 in the distant future??
35 Post contains images VORFMD : look out for it when High Season comes to Town [Edited 2005-09-30 22:32:26]
36 PanAm_DC10 : Boeing have just issued a press release (in German) confirming the order. I can't tell from it whether it's the UFO or not though. Regards, PanAm_DC10
37 Cricket : When OS announced that it was starting flights to BOM they also said that they were exploring additional Indian destinations. Their flights from DEL a
38 JAL : Great news for Boeing but this makes little sense to me, would someone please clarifY?
39 N328KF : Lauda Air owned 777-200ERs. These 777-200ERs were moneymakers, and performing at or beyond expectation. Austrian acquired Lauda Air, and realized tha
40 A342 : IF they are phased-out, somebody will surely pick them up. To my knowledge, no A343 are currently stored, it is a very wanted aircraft.
41 N1786b : Doesn't look like it is the 772 UFO - Austrian's order was booked today and there are still 6. - N1786B
42 Post contains links DIA : http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q4/nr_051006g.html Here is Boeing's official news release...
43 Gkirk : I wonder if flyGlobespan would be interested i the 736?
44 GARPD : And yet another airline is switching from quads to twins. Boeing's gamble begun back in the 90's is paying off.
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