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Independence To Cut 600 Jobs  
User currently offlineSunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4492 times:

Just heard that they will be laying off 600 from all departments.

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User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3018 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4472 times:

My thoughts and best wishes to those who will be affected by this.

JetBluefan1



Most people on a.net hate JetBlue. Get used to it.
User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5209 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4447 times:

The bloodletting has begun


Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4294 times:

It's not enough to save the company.

User currently offlineSupa7e7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4228 times:

Is that what it looks like ?!?!

A taps bugle with a speaker so you just press a button ?!? whoa  yes 


User currently offlineMidway2airtran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4120 times:

Here we go..restructuring #2!! Probably last chance before the court gets involved if it will not this time around. I would believe the heavy cash they started up with has helped them reach a second life, but everything is critical now since they are now highly leveraged. Gee, sounds like Delta's cash/financial situation all over again asides for it occuring far faster than it did with DL! Glad I have not invested in either!!

Indy has announced another significant cut in RDU service, all the way down from around 15 flights they started with. I believe the cut is down to four flights now. I'll miss the $49 fares to IAD! Hopefully those employees who want to stay in the industry can find jobs with the airlines that are still growing.



"Life is short, but your delay in ATL is not."
User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3852 times:

Hey guess what??? Oct 17th is right around the corner. The day that the BK rules change here in the US. They better find something to do.


Sean from MCO and IND



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6194 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3848 times:

Please pick me up, I fell off my chair in surprise (sarcasim)

ASSFO



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3829 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 7):
Hey guess what??? Oct 17th is right around the corner. The day that the BK rules change here in the US. They better find something to do.


Sean from MCO and IND

Sean

Actually it would be different for DH. They won't have to file because the biggest stipulation is thier planned exit date. Since DH isn't very big, they would probably only need a year and change to either exit or liquidate. DL and NW both had to file before the deadline because they are on 3+ year BK plans.


User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3701 times:

until one of the 600 is Skeen FlyI remains doomed.

User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3632 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 7):
Hey guess what??? Oct 17th is right around the corner. The day that the BK rules change here in the US. They better find something to do.

Bankruptcy rules will change little if any for corporate America, however it is bankruptcies of private citizens that will be radically changed. This Administration has been all about screwing the little guy, then taking the savings to light cigars for corporate America... go figure.

As far as independence is concerned... I haven't heard anything about job cuts... they may just be malicious rumors to bring them to a premature demise. However, if they do cut jobs so early in the game then that is not a mark of a successful airline. And Wall Street will dump DH like so much rubbish.



"Are you a pretender... or a thoroughbred?!" - Professor Matt Miller
User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

Makes sense to cut staff after all of the flight reductions.

United Airlines at Dulles is chronically understaffed. They have many positions open on the ramp and in customer service. Hey, Independence staffers, journey across the tarmac to apply. Delta Global Services, the United Express contractor, is also hiring.


User currently offlinePhoenixX2 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3536 times:

I did not know that they had 600 employee.....

User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

Actually the BK rules change for everybody. Not just Joe Citizen.


Sean



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineC680 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3139 times:

IAD has become quite crowded over the past few years.

1) A majority of the BizJets moved from DCA to IAD post 9/11

The effect has been uneven ops, since these are unscheduled. To make matters worse, there are two FBOs (Hawthorne and Signature) on opposite sides of the field, so either approach tries to line them up for their closest runway, or there is an increase in cross ramp traffic.

2) The arrival of Indy saw a huge increase in the number of operations at IAD. The RJ Hub "Strategy" was interesting at best, but frequent flights of small (50 pax airliners) wreaks havoc during the IAD rush hours at 9am and 3pm.

I don't want to see anyone lose their job, but it is time for Indy to go. UA is understaffed, and the Washington DC area has one of the lowest unemployment rates of any place in the USA. That means work for baggage handlers and agents may not be in aviation, but there is no where in the US Constitution that guarantees a job, much less one in a profession of your choosing. Higher skilled folks (A&P and Pilots) tend to be a bit more mobile. FAs have their own issues, but folks who complain about FA work fall into the same category as people who move into a house under and arrival corridor, and then complain about the airplane noise: You made your choice, now live with it or change. Just because you didn't research the downsides, doesn't mean you're not responsible.

Even if Indy just de-evolves into an A319 operator, that would make life at IAD much easier on the rest of us who have to use the airport. The reduction of RJ ops is already beginning to help.



My happy place is FL470 - what's yours?
User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 10):
This Administration has been all about screwing the little guy, then taking the savings to light cigars for corporate America... go figure.

By far off. So you're telling me that someone should be able to declare Ch.7 presonal bankruptcy, screw all their creditors(as in the get $0), and in a year be smelling like a rose? I think not. I work in consumer finance, I see it every day.

Corporate BK laws are changing too.



This is the Last Stop.
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13193 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2593 times:

Maybe this was the rumored 'Big Announcement' from Indy Air in a number of posts last week? Doesn't sound good and I would bet that they go file in BK soon.
The soon to be effective changes in the BK laws as to the personal bankruptcy chapters have gotten more attention and are potentially more far reaching (thanks to the credit card companies that want to make up for their stupidity in offering more credit to the wrong people), there are several important and lesser known changes as to business bankruptices that will try and make it less attractive for businesses to enter BK.


User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2579 times:

Quoting Bicoastal (Reply 11):
Hey, Independence staffers, journey across the tarmac to apply. Delta Global Services, the United Express contractor, is also hiring.

There are some employees that simply can't 'journey across the tarmac' and stay in the IAD area. Dispatchers for one.. the only other airlines with dispatch offices in the DC vicinity are MAXJet, Gemini (if it's still there), and Colgan. Those airlines have only a handful of dispatchers each..

The pilots are up a creek too. Any new flying job will likely mean a move elsewhere in the country. They'll also start all over again at the bottom of a seniority list (remember, any pilot still at Independence has been with the company for quite a while), meaning low pay and a renewed threat of being furlough fodder.


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