C5onknees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 153 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2107 times:
Just another way the management at ATA can screw over their pilots once again with paycuts, all the while wasting money on everything under the sun. And yes ChiGB1973, the pilots (one is my dad) at ATA are excellent and are looking for the best interest of the company, which management there should be doing.
ATA767 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 419 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2056 times:
I think at some point, people will realize that ATA is the little airline that could. The pilots at ATA are great but they had to take a look around and see that EVERY other airline is cutting salaries and not hiring, what choice did they have. This will really help ATA to exit Bankruptcy sooner than later and be more competitive airline.
Vortex From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2013 times:
But by looking around, don't the ATA pilots realize they are the lowest paid in the industry? It is also not always about the money; benefits suffer as well. I think everyone at ATA, inlcluding the pilots, realized the company needed "help". I also know the pilots were willing to help, but there was a difference of opinion of how to help. The real issue is the union not supporting its members, but rather misinforming its members in a scare campaign.
STLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9169 posts, RR: 26 Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2006 times:
Quoting Vortex (Reply 6): But by looking around, don't the ATA pilots realize they are the lowest paid in the industry?
As of right now, perhaps, but doesn't it sound like with all the recent cuts from the other carriers they're all to be on the same level.
Quoting C5onknees (Reply 4): And yes ChiGB1973, the pilots (one is my dad) at ATA are excellent and are looking for the best interest of the company, which management there should be doing.
Quoting Indy (Reply 1): I guess thats good for them. Does this mean TZ will be able to exit bankruptcy? Or is this just another measure to hold on to life for a few more months?
from my understanding it was to make a tremendous difference.
glad to hear the pilots have come to this deal, no matter their personal sacrifice. it at least buys them time which could play out to be very important a la changes that may come to some of their competitors that could open up new doors and opportunity for this cute little airline providing it with a bright new future.
Eternal darkness we all should dread. It's hard to party when you're dead.
Vortex From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1832 times:
The company's financial position is not as dire as it may seem. Minus bankruptcy and other one time expenses, the company has an operational loss of about $400,000 for the year. Not bad considering other companies are really bleeding.
It is my understanding the new pilot contract provides certainty needed to finalize some exit financing.