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ATA Pilots Vote For Further Support Of Airline  
User currently offlineATA767 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 419 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2804 times:

The word is that pilots vote and approve concession package. I thought it was to be done by the 30th but here is the word on the street:

Yes 424 59.22%
No 292 40.78%
84% Voting

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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4588 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2740 times:

I guess thats good for them. Does this mean TZ will be able to exit bankruptcy? Or is this just another measure to hold on to life for a few more months?


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineVortex From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

I hear the Union scared the pilots with misinformation regarding certain aspects of the effect of the 1113(c) Motion!

User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1619 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2686 times:

Hmm, well, better than no job, but I hate it for the great pilots there. I flew with a lot of them, most are excellent! They had come such a long way!

M


User currently offlineC5onknees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2643 times:

Just another way the management at ATA can screw over their pilots once again with paycuts, all the while wasting money on everything under the sun. And yes ChiGB1973, the pilots (one is my dad) at ATA are excellent and are looking for the best interest of the company, which management there should be doing.

User currently offlineATA767 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2592 times:

I think at some point, people will realize that ATA is the little airline that could. The pilots at ATA are great but they had to take a look around and see that EVERY other airline is cutting salaries and not hiring, what choice did they have. This will really help ATA to exit Bankruptcy sooner than later and be more competitive airline.

User currently offlineVortex From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2549 times:

But by looking around, don't the ATA pilots realize they are the lowest paid in the industry? It is also not always about the money; benefits suffer as well. I think everyone at ATA, inlcluding the pilots, realized the company needed "help". I also know the pilots were willing to help, but there was a difference of opinion of how to help. The real issue is the union not supporting its members, but rather misinforming its members in a scare campaign.

User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9507 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2542 times:

Quoting Vortex (Reply 6):
But by looking around, don't the ATA pilots realize they are the lowest paid in the industry?

As of right now, perhaps, but doesn't it sound like with all the recent cuts from the other carriers they're all to be on the same level.

Quoting C5onknees (Reply 4):
And yes ChiGB1973, the pilots (one is my dad) at ATA are excellent and are looking for the best interest of the company, which management there should be doing.

hello, contradiction.

Quoting Indy (Reply 1):
I guess thats good for them. Does this mean TZ will be able to exit bankruptcy? Or is this just another measure to hold on to life for a few more months?

from my understanding it was to make a tremendous difference.

glad to hear the pilots have come to this deal, no matter their personal sacrifice. it at least buys them time which could play out to be very important a la changes that may come to some of their competitors that could open up new doors and opportunity for this cute little airline providing it with a bright new future.



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User currently offlineVortex From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2368 times:

The company's financial position is not as dire as it may seem. Minus bankruptcy and other one time expenses, the company has an operational loss of about $400,000 for the year. Not bad considering other companies are really bleeding.

It is my understanding the new pilot contract provides certainty needed to finalize some exit financing.


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