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Any Online Booking Site Still Giving Class-counts?  
User currently offlineSlarty From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 342 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2598 times:

I can't really remember, but i think expedia in the earliest days, used to give users the class counts on a particular flight .... a la ... something like this.

F-9/9, J-4/9, Y-9/9, Q-9/9, R-2/9, S-0/9, etc. .... (sometimes up to 15 classes)

I used this often to help plan reward travel, and to sense what flights might be available for cheapie fares.

Anyone have any sites that still provide this level of info?

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User currently offlineDarthRandall From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 302 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

I know Expedia doesn't do that now, but they did add a seat availability chart for the coach section just a little while ago. It doesn't work for every airline yet, and it only works with certain flights (usually only mainline). I have no idea about the other online agencies.


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User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2570 times:

I use this site: http://www.flyaow.com/classcwt.htm

User currently offlineSlarty From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2560 times:

Quoting Star_world (Reply 2):
I use this site: http://www.flyaow.com/classcwt.htm

U da man!

Yowza! That's great ... ty very very much! Just did a flight quote and got, e.g.:

"Cabin class: J9 C7 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 N9 Q9 G9 L0 P0 A0 E0 T0"

Ty ... now I do remember that 9 implies 9+ seats available at that fare basis. Does anyone know what the non-rev (award travel) common codes are? (looking in particular for AC/UA/LH/SQ, etc. .... star alliance)


User currently offlinePixuk From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2552 times:

ExpertFlyer.com is probably the best site to use to check the class availability, plus also shows live seat plans and all the fare levels for a particular flight. It's a subscription service, but you can grab a free trial coupon on the V-Flyer.com site in the forums (look for the ExpertFlyer forum).

Pete


User currently offlineSlarty From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2549 times:

Quoting Pixuk (Reply 4):
ExpertFlyer.com is probably the best site to use to check the class availability, plus also shows live seat plans and all the fare levels for a particular flight. It's a subscription service, but you can grab a free trial coupon on the V-Flyer.com site in the forums (look for the ExpertFlyer forum).

Pete

Wow! Ty all very much ... this forum is awesome (mostly ... lol)!


User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2537 times:

United.com gives class counts for MP members when they are doing searches...

User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2497 times:

Quoting DarthRandall (Reply 1):
I know Expedia doesn't do that now, but they did add a seat availability chart for the coach section just a little while ago. It doesn't work for every airline yet, and it only works with certain flights (usually only mainline). I have no idea about the other online agencies.

Just a little while ago? Have you been in the land of nod all these years?!?! They've had that for YEARS!

Perhaps you're only referring to one particular airline. They have seat availability maps for many airlines and occasionally add another airline every now and again.

Geoff M.


User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2472 times:

Quoting Geoffm (Reply 7):
They've had that for YEARS!

Are you sure about this? Certainly on the Expedia UK site, I thought this was a new feature - when it shows lists of available flights, next to each one it has a 'preview seat availability' link. I remember some discussions a couple of months ago about how that was a new feature, but there were a lot of questions about its accuracy.


User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

Quoting Star_world (Reply 8):
Are you sure about this?

Certain. However, I think we're at odds to exactly what we're discussing. Darth mentions a "seat availability chart". This comes up when you choose your seats, but you can see this without actually purchasing anything. You mention a "preview seat availability" - the link is new but the end result is the same - you see the seat map.

Geoff M.


User currently offlineBeowulf From Singapore, joined Jul 2003, 731 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

Quoting Slarty (Reply 3):
Ty ... now I do remember that 9 implies 9+ seats available at that fare basis. Does anyone know what the non-rev (award travel) common codes are? (looking in particular for AC/UA/LH/SQ, etc. .... star alliance)

Yes. Big grin Just checked it with LH, and it looks as if they are not shown.

Nick


User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

WOW, Great site. Thanks (I hope this site remains active and remains free to access though)
Would anyone care to explain what each class count means?
DL374 Cabin class: F7 A5 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K9 L9 U9 T9
Does this indicate how many seats are avialable? (93 Seats out of 142 seats is bad)
Thanks...


User currently offlineSlarty From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2339 times:

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 11):
Would anyone care to explain what each class count means?
DL374 Cabin class: F7 A5 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K9 L9 U9 T9
Does this indicate how many seats are avialable? (93 Seats out of 142 seats is bad)

From what I remeber, they only use a single digit to indicate availability, where 9 implies "9 or more". Generally F is full-fare first class, J is full-fare business class, Y is full-fare economy ... A5 would appear to be discounted first-class, of which only 5 seats are still available. Y9 would imply at least 9 seats available ...

there appears to be some "standards" ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_class


User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1581 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2327 times:

Quoting Afay1 (Reply 6):
United.com gives class counts for MP members when they are doing searches...

If your preferences are set to "expert" mode in your MP profile. And it's only for certain types of searches.



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User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2247 times:

The restart date for MSP-PNS was moved till the January 3, 2006. But now I don't see it in the schedules, anymore.

User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2241 times:

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 11):
Would anyone care to explain what each class count means?
DL374 Cabin class: F7 A5 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K9 L9 U9 T9
Does this indicate how many seats are avialable? (93 Seats out of 142 seats is bad)
Thanks...

There's no way of knowing exactly how many seats are available. There is overlap between the different booking classes - for example, L9 does not refer to a different set of 9 seats to T9. All this indicates is the number of seats that the airline is offering at that time in that booking class. As the flight gets fuller, the number of 'offered' seats in each of the classes will go down. Also, many airlines will stop selling some fare classes closer to the date of the flight - at 7 or 14 days for example. At this time the number shown in that fare class would go to 0.


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