Suspended now, most likely cancelled for good next Spring. They used to fly Illuyshin (sp?) aircraft in here (A340 ripoff) and then the T7. They operated for approximately 10 years, if memory serves correctly, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Due to language issues, there was almost a near disaster here several years ago...the pilot almost mistook 1st Ave. South in Burien (also north/south, parallel to 16/34) as the runway.
TWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3135 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4064 times:
Well i think SEA has had a long history with Aeroflot - in the mid 1990's they operated from Khabarovsk via ANC to SEA with an IL-62 (later Magadan Airways - but originally Aeroflot), after that it was combined with Aeroflot's SFO flight, and operated 777 SVO-SEA-SFO-SVO and later SVO-SEA-SFO-SEA-SVO, right over the north pole. more recently the SFO tag-on was dropped.
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MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33441 posts, RR: 71
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4059 times:
Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 1):
Also, maybe this will open a door to another Russian contender. I'm allowed to dream, aren't I?
Not too far fetched an idea. Both TransAero and Domodedovo Airlines have set their sights on expanding in the US market, especially given Aeroflot's dwinlding pressence. TransAero is flying to Montreal and Domodedovo will soon be flying to Miami, both filling gaps that Aeroflot left behind. Seeing one of the two flying DME-SEA would not surprise me if Aeroflot decides to leave permanently. Seattle has a large Russian community, and, while that doesn't always warrant service, they keep very close business and social ties with Russia, which does
Aeroflot is really dwindling down in North America. As recently as 1999, they were flying to Chicago, Miami, Mexico City, Montreal, Seattle, San Francisco, and Anchorage. Now they will be down to five: Toronto, Dulles, New York City, LA, and Havana. And service to Dulles is via JFK, not even non-stop!
BigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2965 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4009 times:
Curious if we won't see more US airlines entering the Russian market. DL's new ATL-SVO to complement JFK-SVO; the rumored CO EWR-Moscow. Could an AA ORD/MIA-Moscow be on a drawing board somewhere?
I guess it just goes to show you that the population size of a metro area in of itself doesn't necessarily warrant frequent non-stop intercontinental service. If I am not mistaken, the Moscow metro area is the most populous in Europe however there is very limited non-stop service to North America compared to much smaller metro areas.
RwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3156 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3991 times:
SEA used to have all kinds of service to the Russian Far East, as well as SVO via SU obviously. AS even operated several one-stops via ANC for many years. If this goes away it will be sad, as it would be the end of a long history of service from SEA - Russia.
The IL96 is based on the IL86 which debuted before the A340--so A340 ripoff isn't too accurate. If a statement like that could be made it would be that the IL86 is an AB3 ripoff--which I don't agree with either.
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5986 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3515 times:
AS flew to another Russian Far-east city that I can't pronounce "P-K."
It would be nice if Mavial Magadan would reinstate SEA with their TU-154M service. The TU-154M is stage III compliant, I think. I thought I had heard on this forum that the TU-154M met Stage III rules.
Finally, didn't Transaero serve the US west coast with DC-10-30's at one time?
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 27127 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3383 times:
Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 9): The IL96 is based on the IL86 which debuted before the A340--so A340 ripoff isn't too accurate. If a statement like that could be made it would be that the IL86 is an AB3 ripoff--which I don't agree with either.
I agree with you, it isn't an A300 ripoff. The IL86 is FAR too inefficient to be that
Quoting AirScoot (Reply 10): They used to do Magadan, Khabarovsk, and Vladivostok. IIRC those flights used to go out pretty full.
At the time, adventure travel was a big thing and they were filling it with young, well off yuppies who wanted a bit of the Siberian wild. They were generally part of big, expensive tour packages. It was on these routes that they really found out the issues the MD-80 has in the cold
Quoting AirScoot (Reply 13): They did in the mid 90's. I want to say it was service into LAX. We used to sell it wholesale when I was with Jetset.
Yes, Transaero did go to LAX
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Hjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 905 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3339 times:
the P-K city you are thinking of is off the kamchatka peninsula. The city, Petropavlovsk-Kamchatka. AS used to have flights there from ANC. I don't think Irkutsk was ever served by AS. IRK is about 6 - 7 hours east of the pacific coast. It's very far interior.
SU may drop SEA in the near future, but I see extremely high growth potential with them. Once SU joins Skyteam in March, and they receive their six new IL-96's I think SU may begin service to destinations that dropped. Look for new services to skyteam hubs if anything. According to SU, Aeroflot is a profitable airline, and their passengers carriage is increasing every month.
Chugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3084 times:
Perhaps not Aeroflot, but I wouldn't be surprised if air travel between ANC and the Russian far east starts to pick up again over the next few years as oil and gas reserves are developed. As some of you may know, Russia Jet Direct just recently started flying IAH-ANC-UUS (Yuzhno).
Now here's a pipe dream: what if CO started flying to the Russian far east via ANC to connect Houston with the Russian oilfields.
Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3053 times:
Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 9): The IL96 is based on the IL86 which debuted before the A340--so A340 ripoff isn't too accurate. If a statement like that could be made it would be that the IL86 is an AB3 ripoff--
One has four engines, the other two....I don't get it.
Is the IL62 a VC10 ripoff? The TU154 a 727/Trident ripoff?
There's only so many places to put engines.....there's bound to be some similarity in configuration.....taking the analogy one step further into the ridiculous....cannot then all cars be a ripoff of each other since they all have four wheels? or 4-cyl, 6-cyl, 8-cyl engines etc.....