Av8rboie From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 12 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2500 times:
I think it's a good idea also. I do however, have one issue with the project. It's been hinted that Mayor Daley used federal airport improvement funds earmarked for the expansion of O'hare for his midnight, illegal destruction of Meigs Field.
As a private pilot, I found that particular action to be a tad underhanded. Especially if it is in fact found that he used those funds earmarked for O'hare for the destruction.
That being said. It's nice to see progress being made.
Ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 4926 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2265 times:
And a federal judge in Washington has issue a temporary restraining order, halting all construction work. The plaintiffs in the matter are the Villages of Bensenville and Elk Grove Village and a religious rights group, concerned that moving an old cemetary is a violation of the 1st Amendment.
The mayors of Bensenville and Elk Grove are pains in the ass. They are holding the entire U.S. air system hostage for their own egos, i.e., standing up to Mayor Daley.
Johnberg From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 27 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2209 times:
Trust me whatever Mayor Daley wants Mayor Daley gets. He closed down Meigs Field, under his own power and only got a slap on the wrist. Also, their is the matter of eminent domain. As long as the government gives people fair value for their property, nothing wrong is going to happen. The issue of the cemetary is really the only concern. Trust me this will happen Elk Grove and Bensenville have no chance of winning.
Ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 4926 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2161 times:
Bensenville has been buying houses in the area and intends to drag out the emminant domain process. Remember that Bensenville is in DuPage County, and all the judges in DuPage are Republican.
The Village actually got a court order barring the City from discussing the purchase of houses with owners, although I think that order was tied to the FAA approval.
Eventually, the City will win, but the City has the new runway scheduled to open in late '07 or early '08. Between suing the FAA and stalling the eminant domain cases, this could several years to the process.
What gripes me is that I can drive to ORD in 25 to 45 minutes, depending on traffic. Peotone is 90 minutes with no traffic, and well over 2 hours in rush hour.
ORD Boy 2 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 276 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1980 times:
Im sick of Rep. Jackson, Mayor Gelis, Village President Johnson and all of thes SOC cronies. GET OVER IT YOU LOST!!!! Stop trying to hurt the metro Chicago region for there own personal gain! Geils and Johnson are the last stalwarts this anti expansion movement and need to realize they have lost.
Jeffry747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1966 times:
It's great that they finally got the go-ahead to expand one of the world's most chaotic airports. It is also very smart, IMHO, that they chose a layout similar to DFW so more planes could come and go on time. However, they need to find a way to get around the cemetery and let the deceased R.I.P. My home airport of SDF has an old Indian burial ground smack dab in the middle of UPS property. When construction crews found the remains of deceased Indians, they simply left it alone and built around it. It is not a very big site, mybe half an acre at most, so it doesn't compare to a cemetery with 1300 graves. But it is still not very respectable to dig them all up and relocate them. If the cemetery is in the way, then they need to expand in a different direction, simply put.
Midway2AirTran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1940 times:
This is actually one case where I hope Daley will step over barriers to get the job done more quickly. I'm not sure if any comprimise can be done not to move the graves, but that does not change the need for this project to get going. Knowing Daley, I'm guessing is that the construction might still be going on despite the appeal, can anyone confirm?
Quoting 767-332ER (Reply 10): Does anyone have any layout prints of what it should look like once everything is completed?
I was trying to find a source. But I read of a recent case where the Supreme Court granting more power to the goverment for use of Eminant Domain, including land for private companies. Odds are, the appeal might not stick for long.
Bomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 378 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1882 times:
Why do they want to eventually close 14L-32R and 14R-32L? Wouldn't this reduce capacity? Keeping these runways could allow for another arrival stream. Or am I wrong? Overall, however, I think its a smart advancement.