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VIASA: Sad Ending (pics)  
User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1891 posts, RR: 27
Posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5946 times:

Hey guys,

Today I found these images and I got quite sad.

Probably, VIASA's death has been discussed before, but perhaps, you haven't seen this pictures.

How sad could this be for all the pilots and crew who attended these aircraft?... No clue.

Here they are:

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Photo © JetPix



After:

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Photo © João Martins
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Photo © João Martins



Before:

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Photo © Carlos A. Morillo Doria



After:

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Photo © Sam Chui
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Photo © Philip Edwards



Speechless!

Saludos


Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
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User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2711 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5841 times:

It was a sad end. To me it was one of Latin America's greatest airlines. But, I also think that VIASA in all essence died with the Venezuela that once was; the Venezuela of the 50s, 60s, and 70s! The once prosperous country that got spoiled and forgot to look itself in the mirror and for which it is now having a huge identity crisis. In any case, VIASA even after almost ten years after it ceased operations still evokes passion within my aviation soul.

Just look at its once proud European network:

Madrid (4 x weekly)
Santiago de Compostela (1 x weekly discontinued a year before it shut down)
Tenerife (1 x weekly discontinued in the late 80s)
Porto (2 x weekly)
Lisbon (2 x weekly)
Paris (2 x weekly)
London Heathrow (2 x weekly)
Zurich (2 weekly)
Frankfurt (4 x weekly)
Rome (4 x weekly)
Milan (4 x weekly)

Now that's certainly a very impressive route network. I wish I could get a hold of one of their old in-flight magazines. Does anyone know what happened with Viasa's headquarters 'La Torre de Viasa' in downtown Caracas, near Parque Central?

  LatinPlane

[Edited 2005-10-01 00:13:32]

User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1891 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5799 times:

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 1):
Just look at its once proud European network

Wow, Impressive!

Don't forget their American network: Toronto, New York, Miami, Orlando, Chicago (I think) Bogota, Santiago....

What a Pity



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3922 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5691 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 2):
Don't forget their American network: Toronto, New York, Miami, Orlando, Chicago (I think) Bogota, Santiago....

Why does everyone forget Houston?


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Photo © Andrew Abshier



Unfortunely I could not find any DC-10 pics but IAH did see Viasa's DC-10s. I also seem to remember that Viasa operated 722s as well.

Indeed a sad demise of one of Latin America's great carriers.


Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5553 times:

The network seems large until you notice the 2x weekly flights. How many other carriers operate like that? Also, those aircraft would have been scrapped sooner or later, no matter what happened to the airline that operated them.


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User currently offlineJeffry747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5370 times:

The image of a backhoe running that 727 through is absolutely heartbreaking. It pains me to see an airplane die. YV-125C, R.I.P.


C'mon Big B, FLY!
User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

These are very very sad pictures from my favorite airline. Honestly, I don't want to see them.

In terms of destinations, there were a lot more than those listed, also charter flights to Europe. And the frequencies mentioned changed a lot. So there were times - at the end - where LON and ORY were served 2xweekly. Then there were AMS flights up to 3xweekly until the early 90s.

There were charter flights to BLL and FRA.

So I wish this airline would be reborn as a PRIVATE carrier. But these are dreams. The spirit is gone and there are too many debts left open abroad in 1993.

VIASA was the best airline Venezuela ever had. It was a typical flag carrier. And it was a carrier to be proud of.

R.I.P.


User currently offlineBredman1 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4240 times:

Quote:
The image of a backhoe running that 727 through is absolutely heartbreaking. It pains me to see an airplane die. YV-125C, R.I.P.

You get use to it, my crews have dismantled more than 100 airliners in the past 3 years


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4192 times:

Quoting SATX (Reply 4):
The network seems large until you notice the 2x weekly flights. How many other carriers operate like that? Also, those aircraft would have been scrapped sooner or later, no matter what happened to the airline that operated them.

the amount of weekly operations was years back not uncommon... even big airlines like LH, AF etc did not served these days back daily the routes. often 2 - 3 per week.

regards
Avianca

[Edited 2005-10-01 22:48:37]


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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4083 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4048 times:

Why was a plane from a Venezuelan airline being broken up in Portugal??

User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1870 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4018 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 6):
VIASA was the best airline Venezuela ever had. It was a typical flag carrier. And it was a carrier to be proud of.

That is aboluty correct!

I was only two times on board of a VA DC-10, but this two flights were great. After this flights I loved VA. I search all about this airline, but it was really hard here in Switzerland.


User currently offlineWassch71 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2005, 208 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3743 times:

Hey, don't forget that Viasa's network extended to Beirut back in the mid seventies, as per this March 75 add:



Cheers,

Wassim.



MEA...Like No Other
User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1870 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3724 times:

Have you see the slogan? Viasa - Worlds first all jet airline!!!

User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3718 times:

What a network for 1975 ! This is one of the reason why I think this airline is so impressive.
They were one of the first airlines to introduce the DC10 on flights to FRA. LH was still operating the 707 on FRA-CCS at that time !


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3714 times:

Hmm, something strange just came to my mind. Back in 1989 or 1990, governments of Yugoslavia and Venezuela signed a bilaterral agreement and there were talks about both JAT and VIASA to fly there. All those years later, VIASA is gone and JAT is on its way to eventually diasappear (it has already disappeared as a long-haul airline).

As for photos posted here, every time I see a photo of a scrapped airliner, it makes me really sad.



R-E-S-P-E-C-T
User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1891 posts, RR: 27
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3617 times:

Hey guys,
now that I think about this, what are the possibilities tof bringing VIASA back to life? Starting totally new, a whole different airline but with new aircraft and new administration... Is that possible?

That would be amazing!

Saludos



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2866 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3512 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9):
Why was a plane from a Venezuelan airline being broken up in Portugal??

Because there was a long-running dispute between VIASA and its Portuguese branch regarding unpaid salaries. While the majority opted for a settlement, three ex-employees had this 727 impounded (how it got there in the first place I really don't know, rangewise) and eventually I believe the ex-employees did win the settlement. The plane spent years in a LIS hangar though with the lawsuit pending. In the end spare parts were probably more valuable than the plane as a whole, those were sold/auctioned and the airframe was scrapped.



I scratch my head, therefore I am.
User currently offlineCmk10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3507 times:

Back in the day, when my Mother was a Corporate Lawyer, she was lucky enough to work on a deal with Viasa. On the flight back up to JFK, the pilots called her into the cockpit and thanked her for working with their airline. They then pulled out the jumpseat for her and allowed her to sit in it while they landed at JFK.


"Traveling light is the only way to fly" - Eric Clapton
User currently offlineTimeair From Canada, joined May 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 2):
Don't forget their American network: Toronto

Since when the H**l was Toronto considered to be a part of America? I think you mean North America.



You can't get there from here.
User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

Quoting Timeair (Reply 18):
Since when the H**l was Toronto considered to be a part of America? I think you mean North America.

isnt NorthAmerica a part of America? the complete region is knonw under Iata rules as TACT1 (the americas)

regards
Avianca



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3131 times:

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 1):
its once proud European network

Proud but not comfortable: AMS-FRA-MAD-CCS or AMS-CDG-MAD-CCS or once we even did FCO-MXP-Santo Domingo-CCS

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 1):
I wish I could get a hold of one of their old in-flight magazines

I've got some VIASAR 's but will NEVER give them up! And 'Traveling with Viasa', about tourist spots in Venezuela.

Quoting Timeair (Reply 18):
Toronto

I'll never forget the sight of hundreds of Canadians walking backward to the aircraft on the Margarita platform: as to catch the last rays of sun before going back into hibernation  Wink



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 20):
Proud but not comfortable: AMS-FRA-MAD-CCS or AMS-CDG-MAD-CCS or once we even did FCO-MXP-Santo Domingo-CCS

these days back normall... can remember the glory Avianca scheduel into FRA.

FRA-CDG-MAD-CCS-BOG-LIM

regards
Avianca



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3092 times:

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 20):
Proud but not comfortable: AMS-FRA-MAD-CCS or AMS-CDG-MAD-CCS or once we even did FCO-MXP-Santo Domingo-CCS

I remember, but this was in the 80s. Later the routings were AMS-MAD-CCS or FRA-MAD-CCS, FRA-ZRH-CCS, FRA-MXP-PMV etc.
But remember that most of the flights you mentioned, e.g. AMS-FRA-MAD-CCS went on to MAR.

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 20):
I've got some VIASAR 's but will NEVER give them up! And 'Traveling with Viasa', about tourist spots in Venezuela.

So do I ! I even had almost all timetables from VIASA untill my parents decided that it was just old paper and threw them all away !

Quoting 797 (Reply 15):
now that I think about this, what are the possibilities tof bringing VIASA back to life? Starting totally new, a whole different airline but with new aircraft and new administration... Is that possible?

You would need a lot of money for that ! Remember all the debts old VIASA has abroad an within the country (pensions etc.). That's why they now made something called Conviasa or so.
But if you have the bucks, let's go !


User currently offlineCaribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1637 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3089 times:

I'd see the occasional VIASA jet in Montreal every now and then. KLM had one 747 that was painted KLM on one side and VIASA on the other... I looked up over my house and a VIASA 747 was coming into Montreal... as a kid and aviation fanatic I went ballistic running around pointing at the plane from Venezuela (although really coming in from Amsterdam)... all my friends looked at me like I was from another planet LOL..

User currently offlineNwafflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1050 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3069 times:

Please - in North America, there are 3 countries. The United States, Mexico and Canada. All of them are part of America

25 Caribb : I think people have to understand Canadians take offence to being lumped in as part of "America". "America" to us is the USA. We live in North America
26 JohnJ : Man, talk about your catch-22s here. As someone who is a United States citizen, I've had people from Canada and Mexico take offense when I've called
27 Post contains links and images Lamedianaranja : That was a DC-8 if I remember correctly. I didn't find any photos in the database, only the VA DC-8 with Dutch registration. View Large View MediumPh
28 Caribb : You're right, there was a DC-8 in split liveries... but there was also a 747-200, at least I think... perhaps it was a DC-10 (or all 3) but I do reca
29 Luisde8cd : Enrique, Just read my signature... Saludos desde Caracas, Luis
30 Chiguire : ....your signature is of course correct. (Both parts !) But I doubt that good times will come soon - unfortunately. And if, then I hope that there is
31 Post contains images Latinplane : VIASA schedules for the Americas: Oct 96 - Mar 97. International Flights from Caracas: -Bogota (daily) 727 -Buenos Aires EZE (3 x weekly) DC-10 -Cancu
32 Post contains images Latinplane : They did bring it back! It's called: ConViasa La Linea Aerea de la Republica Bolivariana de Venezuela. The original Viasa is gone forever; along with
33 Chiguire : Sure, but I don't have them here. They are at the house of my parents. An if they didn't threw them awas as well, I will scan them next weekend when
34 Lamedianaranja : My husband was a VA employee. Me being a Dutch girl, I was flying back and forth all the time. I have to say that I'd try to get on KL preferably bec
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