Latinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2666 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 5452 times:
It was a sad end. To me it was one of Latin America's greatest airlines. But, I also think that VIASA in all essence died with the Venezuela that once was; the Venezuela of the 50s, 60s, and 70s! The once prosperous country that got spoiled and forgot to look itself in the mirror and for which it is now having a huge identity crisis. In any case, VIASA even after almost ten years after it ceased operations still evokes passion within my aviation soul.
Just look at its once proud European network:
Madrid (4 x weekly)
Santiago de Compostela (1 x weekly discontinued a year before it shut down)
Tenerife (1 x weekly discontinued in the late 80s)
Porto (2 x weekly)
Lisbon (2 x weekly)
Paris (2 x weekly)
London Heathrow (2 x weekly)
Zurich (2 weekly)
Frankfurt (4 x weekly)
Rome (4 x weekly)
Milan (4 x weekly)
Now that's certainly a very impressive route network. I wish I could get a hold of one of their old in-flight magazines. Does anyone know what happened with Viasa's headquarters 'La Torre de Viasa' in downtown Caracas, near Parque Central?
SATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5164 times:
The network seems large until you notice the 2x weekly flights. How many other carriers operate like that? Also, those aircraft would have been scrapped sooner or later, no matter what happened to the airline that operated them.
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Chiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 17 Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4113 times:
These are very very sad pictures from my favorite airline. Honestly, I don't want to see them.
In terms of destinations, there were a lot more than those listed, also charter flights to Europe. And the frequencies mentioned changed a lot. So there were times - at the end - where LON and ORY were served 2xweekly. Then there were AMS flights up to 3xweekly until the early 90s.
There were charter flights to BLL and FRA.
So I wish this airline would be reborn as a PRIVATE carrier. But these are dreams. The spirit is gone and there are too many debts left open abroad in 1993.
VIASA was the best airline Venezuela ever had. It was a typical flag carrier. And it was a carrier to be proud of.
Avianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5881 posts, RR: 39 Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3803 times:
Quoting SATX (Reply 4): The network seems large until you notice the 2x weekly flights. How many other carriers operate like that? Also, those aircraft would have been scrapped sooner or later, no matter what happened to the airline that operated them.
the amount of weekly operations was years back not uncommon... even big airlines like LH, AF etc did not served these days back daily the routes. often 2 - 3 per week.
Chiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 17 Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3329 times:
What a network for 1975 ! This is one of the reason why I think this airline is so impressive.
They were one of the first airlines to introduce the DC10 on flights to FRA. LH was still operating the 707 on FRA-CCS at that time !
Aleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3235 posts, RR: 33 Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3325 times:
Hmm, something strange just came to my mind. Back in 1989 or 1990, governments of Yugoslavia and Venezuela signed a bilaterral agreement and there were talks about both JAT and VIASA to fly there. All those years later, VIASA is gone and JAT is on its way to eventually diasappear (it has already disappeared as a long-haul airline).
As for photos posted here, every time I see a photo of a scrapped airliner, it makes me really sad.
797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1845 posts, RR: 26 Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3228 times:
now that I think about this, what are the possibilities tof bringing VIASA back to life? Starting totally new, a whole different airline but with new aircraft and new administration... Is that possible?
That would be amazing!
Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
BuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2806 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3123 times:
Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9): Why was a plane from a Venezuelan airline being broken up in Portugal??
Because there was a long-running dispute between VIASA and its Portuguese branch regarding unpaid salaries. While the majority opted for a settlement, three ex-employees had this 727 impounded (how it got there in the first place I really don't know, rangewise) and eventually I believe the ex-employees did win the settlement. The plane spent years in a LIS hangar though with the lawsuit pending. In the end spare parts were probably more valuable than the plane as a whole, those were sold/auctioned and the airframe was scrapped.
Cmk10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3118 times:
Back in the day, when my Mother was a Corporate Lawyer, she was lucky enough to work on a deal with Viasa. On the flight back up to JFK, the pilots called her into the cockpit and thanked her for working with their airline. They then pulled out the jumpseat for her and allowed her to sit in it while they landed at JFK.
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Chiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 17 Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2703 times:
Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 20): Proud but not comfortable: AMS-FRA-MAD-CCS or AMS-CDG-MAD-CCS or once we even did FCO-MXP-Santo Domingo-CCS
I remember, but this was in the 80s. Later the routings were AMS-MAD-CCS or FRA-MAD-CCS, FRA-ZRH-CCS, FRA-MXP-PMV etc.
But remember that most of the flights you mentioned, e.g. AMS-FRA-MAD-CCS went on to MAR.
Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 20): I've got some VIASAR 's but will NEVER give them up! And 'Traveling with Viasa', about tourist spots in Venezuela.
So do I ! I even had almost all timetables from VIASA untill my parents decided that it was just old paper and threw them all away !
Quoting 797 (Reply 15): now that I think about this, what are the possibilities tof bringing VIASA back to life? Starting totally new, a whole different airline but with new aircraft and new administration... Is that possible?
You would need a lot of money for that ! Remember all the debts old VIASA has abroad an within the country (pensions etc.). That's why they now made something called Conviasa or so.
But if you have the bucks, let's go !
Caribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1630 posts, RR: 9 Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2700 times:
I'd see the occasional VIASA jet in Montreal every now and then. KLM had one 747 that was painted KLM on one side and VIASA on the other... I looked up over my house and a VIASA 747 was coming into Montreal... as a kid and aviation fanatic I went ballistic running around pointing at the plane from Venezuela (although really coming in from Amsterdam)... all my friends looked at me like I was from another planet LOL..