797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1821 posts, RR: 26 Posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6990 times:
Yesterday's AA flight 903 MIA-CCS on a A-300 had to make an emergency landing at MIA due to a "mechanical problem" 40 minutes after take-off...
That's what my uncle told me today. He was in that flight and he states that there were no details about the problem, but the captain of the aircraft said that Firefighters and all the airport assistance would be wayting for them at the time of their landing right next to the runway, and indeed, all the passengers saw through the window all the rescue trucks standing next to re runway and following them to the gate.
All the passengers had to be moved to another aircraft with a delay of more than 6 hours, arriving at CCS at 2:30 AM...
Pretty scary for all of them...
Does any of you have more details?
I haven't found any information about this.
Another problem with this old plane....
Regards.
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PRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1017 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6789 times:
Just because firefighters were called doesnt mean they were in danger. It is usually procedure to call Fire Rescue during an emergency landing. Why did your uncle didnt ask what happened?
N62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3681 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6772 times:
Sounds like just another routine flight on the AA A300-600!
(Just kidding, but that poor plane takes such a beating here on a.net. I actually prefer it to the 757 when I fly MIA-NYC).
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6743 times:
Quoting 797 (Thread starter): All the passengers had to be moved to another aircraft with a delay of more than 6 hours, arriving at CCS at 2:30 AM...
Don't tell the New York Post about this inexcusable delay!
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7598 posts, RR: 40 Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6594 times:
Quoting 797 (Thread starter): Yesterday's AA flight 903 MIA-CCS on a A-300 had to make an emergency landing at MIA due to a "mechanical problem" 40 minutes after take-off...
The term "emergency landing" is often over used. An emergency landing is when a crew decides that they have no choice to land as soon as safely possible (i.e.: engine out, fire on board). However, a precautionary landing is a landing where the crew decides to land the aircraft (i.e.: certain MX problems, medical diversion) just to be on the safe side. Is there any information on why the AA aircraft landed?
Quoting 797 (Thread starter): Another problem with this old plane....
Age has nothing to do with an aircraft. It is how well it is maintained and operated that is an issue.
797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1821 posts, RR: 26 Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6470 times:
Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 1): Why did your uncle didnt ask what happened?
When he was walking out of the aircraft, he asked the FA on the exit what exactly happened, and she just said: "Oh nothing sir, everything's fine, just safety precautions" ¬¬
Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 4): Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
Another problem with this old plane....
Age has nothing to do with an aircraft. It is how well it is maintained and operated that is an issue.
Well, yes, but as we've seen many times in this forum, this aircraft has been having problems lately...
Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
BigMac From Suriname, joined Nov 2003, 317 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6407 times:
Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 4): The term "emergency landing" is often over used. An emergency landing is when a crew decides that they have no choice to land as soon as safely possible (i.e.: engine out, fire on board). However, a precautionary landing is a landing where the crew decides to land the aircraft (i.e.: certain MX problems, medical diversion) just to be on the safe side. Is there any information on why the AA aircraft landed?
Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
Another problem with this old plane....
Age has nothing to do with an aircraft. It is how well it is maintained and operated that is an issue.
In December of last year I was on an PY flight from MIA to AUA (a charter using a relatively "new" Miami Air 737-8Q8; reg # N738MA), when 45 minutes into the flight the aircraft made a sharp turn (180 degrees?). I was like WTF is going on? Shortly thereafter the captain came on the PA and said that there was a problem distributing fuel from one side to the other so we had to turn back to MIA. Anyway, we had "priority" to land (really quick approach into MIA) and as usual with these "emergencies" there were a row of firetrucks waiting beside the runway. We did not deplane, and after another 45 minutes we finally departed to AUA.
The moral of the story, mechanical problems do happen, even on such a relatively "new" 737-8Q8...
September11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 23 Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6362 times:
Merriam-Webster word definition of emergency:
1 : an unforeseen combination of circumstances or the resulting state that calls for immediate action
****
No matter how serious -- still "emergency landing"
AAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3410 posts, RR: 50 Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6334 times:
Quoting 797 (Thread starter): That's what my uncle told me today. He was in that flight and he states that there were no details about the problem, but the captain of the aircraft said that Firefighters and all the airport assistance would be wayting for them at the time of their landing right next to the runway, and indeed, all the passengers saw through the window all the rescue trucks standing next to re runway and following them to the gate.
All the passengers had to be moved to another aircraft with a delay of more than 6 hours, arriving at CCS at 2:30 AM...
Pretty scary for all of them...
Does any of you have more details?
Blue Hydraulic System reservoer temperature overheat warning.... leading to a precautionary landing [requiring declared emergency? Don't know enough about A300 to even guess]. Rest of your post reads as if the captain may not have done a very good job of informing the pax exactly what was going on and why.
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ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7598 posts, RR: 40 Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6186 times:
Quoting September11 (Reply 8): Merriam-Webster word definition of emergency:
1 : an unforeseen combination of circumstances or the resulting state that calls for immediate action
****
No matter how serious -- still "emergency landing"
In a sense, you are correct. However, in the fascinating world of aviation, there are very clear and different definitions between an emergency or precautionary landing. Just as there is a difference between calling a Mayday-Mayday-Mayday or a Pan-Pan-Pan or between an accident and incident.
What I was trying to get at was that in aviation there are very specific terms such as the above mentioned, but to most people (including the media) almost every incident where a flight crew experiences an abnormal phase of flight and decides to land the aircraft is considered an emergency. But in the world of aviation it may not be the case.
Just a side note, a precauctionary landing can also have a priority status if the crew requires/requests it. Most times, they will be asked in they are declaring an emergency or priority. I'm not an airline pilot, but I am assuming that the crew would only request an emergency approach if absolutly neccessary, as I could imagine that there would be a report written up and lots of paperwork to be filled out, but I could be mistaked on that.
Quoting 797 (Reply 5): Well, yes, but as we've seen many times in this forum, this aircraft has been having problems lately...
Every aircraft type has their quirks and problems.
AAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3410 posts, RR: 50 Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5971 times:
Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 10): Just a side note, a precauctionary landing can also have a priority status if the crew requires/requests it. Most times, they will be asked in they are declaring an emergency or priority. I'm not an airline pilot, but I am assuming that the crew would only request an emergency approach if absolutly neccessary, as I could imagine that there would be a report written up and lots of paperwork to be filled out, but I could be mistaked on that.
As a general rule-of-thumb, airline crews will request CFR for just about anything. It's free (already paid for) and the "paperwork" has become very minor --at AA, Captain fills out a computer "report".... takes less than 5 minutes.
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