RICARIZA From Colombia, joined Apr 2005, 2356 posts, RR: 29 Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3058 times:
Occupational Hazards, the leading magazine of safety, health and loss prevention, presented the 2005 America's Safest Companies:
Amphenol AssembleTech Florida, Lakes Wales, Fla.
Calpine Corp., San Jose, Calif. Delta Airlines Inc., Atlanta, Ga.
Fort Dearborn Co., Niles, Ill.
Frito-Lay Inc., Plano, Tex.
ISP Columbus, Columbus, Ohio
Keystone Wood Specialties Inc., Lancaster, Pa.
Kinetic Systems Inc., Union City, Calif.
Marathon Petroleum Co. LLC, Robinson, Ill.
Springs Window Fashions LP, Montgomery, Pa.
Union Pacific Corp., Omaha, Neb.
Westinghouse Savannah River Co., Aiken, S.C.
Delta is the first airline in entering this listing, next to other 61 companies of different sectors that have received this distinction since 2002. "To maintain an atmosphere of safety at work for our employees and a safe operation for our clients it has always been our greater corporative value", affirmed Joe Kolshak, executive vice-president and head of operations of Delta.
Crogalski From United States of America, joined May 2005, 514 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3031 times:
jetblue should be there
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Aa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3338 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3015 times:
Positiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 9 Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2929 times:
Good to see that, even though the airline in in Chapter 11, the work and attention to safety still goes on. Good work DL.
Evan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2902 times:
Quoting NonRevKing (Reply 7): Because Jetblue: good, Delta: bad, right?
You nipped it in the bud. I honestly don't understand that everyone has to jump to the conclusion that JetBlue is allways better than Delta....
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
Crogalski From United States of America, joined May 2005, 514 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2779 times:
i dont have a problem with delta,
but I know that here at jetblue, they emphasize on safety, and spend a lot of time, ergonomics training and all.. They spend a lot of money on getting the best, and most safe equipment.. so why shouldn't they be on the list? Just because they're a 5 year old company?
edit - also.. jetblue was founded on Safety..
[Edited 2005-10-03 05:10:49]
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Kevi747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1056 posts, RR: 13 Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2764 times:
Quoting Crogalski (Reply 11): but I know that here at jetblue, they emphasize on safety, and spend a lot of time, ergonomics training and all..
So do many other airlines.
Quoting Crogalski (Reply 11): edit - also.. jetblue was founded on Safety..
What?
"Reality has a well-known liberal bias." --Stephen Colbert
NonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2733 times:
Quoting Crogalski (Reply 11): but I know that here at jetblue, they emphasize on safety, and spend a lot of time, ergonomics training and all.. They spend a lot of money on getting the best, and most safe equipment.. so why shouldn't they be on the list? Just because they're a 5 year old company?
Maybe because Delta's last fatal accident was 4 years before Jetblue even existed?
Remember the Swissair MD11 accident? How the passengers and media kept saying how well Swiss took care of the families? Guess who?
Jetblue doesn't deserve everything.
I also loved how everyone at Jetblue and all the blue Kool Aid drinkers on here talked about their LAX emergency landing and said it was "a great landing".
No, a great landing is a landing without the plane on fire!
Dl757md From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1555 posts, RR: 18 Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2723 times:
Quoting Crogalski (Reply 11): They spend a lot of money on getting the best, and most safe equipment.. so why shouldn't they be on the list?
I'll tell you why. Jet blue more than likely doesn't aggressively seek nominations like Delta does. I can't speak for the process they went through to get included on this list but they are very aggressive in making sure that every AMT submits his training for the year to the FAA so that they get the highest training award from the FAA. I'm not saying it's wrong however I've heard from AMTs at a lot of other companies who go through similar training but don't submit the records to the FAA (they aren't required to by the FAA - it's optional training) so their companies don't get the recognition and Delta "appears" to have more training than other companies. Smart really.
I suspect that something similar is happening here. We can't get equipment
here in mtc without an act of congress. We constantly have lift trucks that won't work, ladders that are broken, tugs that don't steer. It's pretty ridiculous. This isn't just since BK either, it's been going on for years. Maybe it's just because we're lowly mechanics. When we used to de-ice(years ago) we had open bucket de-ice trucks that were ancient and always breaking. When ACS took over the job they got new trucks with enclosed heated buckets. Kind of made us feel like we are at the bottom of the food chain when it comes to the company taking care of our well being. I digress.
Basically your company won't be recognized for these kind of lists/awards if they don't seek them. It's not always accurate or fair, but it's good business.
Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 8): Who am I more likely to believe? Occupational Hazards, which basically would say anything OSHA would say, or you? Hmmm....
The FAA being the primary regulatory agency over Delta has the primary oversight of working conditions at Delta or any other airline. OSHA can step in but generally they don't unless something glaringly wrong becomes evident.
One other thing. In regard to PPE (personal protective equipment - hearing protection, safety glasses and such) Delta while they have the equipment available does not promote or require the use of it to anywhere the same degree that I have seen at some other companies, especially those in the manufacturing sector.
Crogalski From United States of America, joined May 2005, 514 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2696 times:
DALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2370 posts, RR: 15 Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2636 times:
I guess it is because of this award they took away or workplace accident leave. We used to get accident leave for any on the job injuries. Now we have to use up all our sick, no wait, our personal days. Then short term disablity until workerman's comp kicks in. Anyone that gets any injury that prevents them from coming to work for an extended time is going to be screwed. Waiting for that first 66% workman's comp check was the longest time of my life when it happened to me years ago.
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