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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1136 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3467 times:

AeroMexico will start CLE service (Funjet Vacations)starting Dec 17,2005 to CUN. Flights will operate Wed,SAT,SUN and Thu starting Feb 9,2006.


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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3429 times:

Interesting. If and when the AM-CO codeshare becomes effective, CLE could be an interesting destination for regularly-scheduled service. Don't you agree?

Any clue if AM will use 73W's?



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3418 times:

WOW, AeroMexico in CLE.... sounds like a 737 route. Will Aeromexico be the first foreign carrier at CLE?

User currently offlineAirlineslover From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

As I told you.... time for expantion  Wink... good for AM's team.... for me sounds like a 737 flight too.... Saludos Victor

User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 841 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3381 times:
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Wow how cool is this! Even if it is a 737 it is great news for CLE, though it will not be the first foreign carrier as our friends up north have been sending flights down for years.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32782 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

Quoting Airlineslover (Reply 3):
As I told you.... time for expantion Wink... good for AM's team.... for me sounds like a 737 flight too..

This isn't "AM's team". AeroMexico simply got a good contract to operate a charter flight on behalf of Funjet. This has nothing to do with their route planning team.

Quoting Juventus (Reply 2):
Will Aeromexico be the first foreign carrier at CLE?

No. Air Canada flies there, and other foreign airlines have in the past, including JAT.



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User currently offlineChrisjake From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 871 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

great news for CLE! any dep/arr times posted yet?


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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3343 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 2):
Will Aeromexico be the first foreign carrier at CLE?

Air Canada has been here for years.

CO operates one non-stop to CUN on Saturdays. There is no non-stop back to CLE.


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User currently offlineAirlineslover From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3346 times:

This route might be a new AM's route don't you think? I can't understand your point of view... If you have something against AM routing plan or Mexicans Airlines in the USA.... well who knows... as I told cheers to AM's team and the new route that AM has IN IT OWN PLANE TO CLE!!!!!!! (No matter if is on behalf of Funjet or whatever......)

About JAT flt CLE was only for a short term a destination of that disappeared airline, they had flts to DTW and ORD and JFK and YYZ as well, but they doesn't exist anymore and AM YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, it exists and soon will be landing at CLE airport.... how wonderful and great NEW DESTINATION...... btw Saludos


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5222 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3290 times:

It's not a NEW SCHEDULE ROUTE, this are just charter operations and probably the first of several to come from AM or MX considering TMA's departure which had a strong operation at CUN and CZM.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32782 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3197 times:

Quoting Airlineslover (Reply 8):
This route might be a new AM's route don't you think? I can't understand your point of view... If you have something against AM routing plan or Mexicans Airlines in the USA.... well who knows... as I told cheers to AM's team and the new route that AM has IN IT OWN PLANE TO CLE!!!!!!! (No matter if is on behalf of Funjet or whatever......)

I have nothing against CLE or Mexican airlines in the US. That is ridiculous, why would I? I am just telling it like it is. Funjet vacations asked for bids to operate Cancun-Cleveland, and AeroMexico won. It doesn't have to do with AeroMexico's route planning department or the people at AM saying "hey, let's fly to CLE". It is about getting a lucrative charter contract.

Quoting Airlineslover (Reply 8):
About JAT flt CLE was only for a short term a destination of that disappeared airline, they had flts to DTW and ORD and JFK and YYZ as well, but they doesn't exist anymore

I guess JAT is flying imaginary planes?

http://www.jat.com/



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User currently offlineSalso From Slovenia, joined Dec 2004, 205 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
I guess JAT is flying imaginary planes?

JAT used to operate DC-10s to the US quite a while ago. I think it was in the 80s and early 90s (I could also be easily wrong here), but when I was a kid, I remember some flights had a stop in LJU.

Nowadays JAT don't have any widebodies in their fleet anymore.


User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3079 times:

Quoting Redngold (Reply 7):
CO operates one non-stop to CUN on Saturdays. There is no non-stop back to CLE.

Continental's flight is non-stop and is round-trip from CLE..Co also starts Sunday CUN service in November and may start Wed service in Feb.



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User currently offlineXA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3045 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
This isn't "AM's team". AeroMexico simply got a good contract to operate a charter flight on behalf of Funjet. This has nothing to do with their route planning team.

I can clearly see MAH4546´s point here. Indeed, the CLE operation is a temporary arrangement, and depending on how competitive AM stays during the exercise, the contract could be renewed or switched to another carrier by Funjet.

On the other hand, what´s the market base in CLE that could sustain an scheduled operation by AM, MX or even Azteca and Aviacsa ?

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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3031 times:
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This charter is because TMA/Trans Meridian stopped flying. Funjet needed to find another provider and it boiled down to who had planes available to run the charters.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32782 posts, RR: 72
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3030 times:

Quoting XA744 (Reply 13):
On the other hand, what´s the market base in CLE that could sustain an scheduled operation by AM, MX or even Azteca and Aviacsa ?

Probably not that strong. The thing is that, when it comes to flying to Mexican resort cities, Americans are more inclined to fly an American airline. Hence, when you look at the route maps of airlines between the US and Mexico, you see US airlines doing more resort flying and Mexican airlines doing more VFR/business-aimed flying. Look at how few Mexican flag carrier routes there are between the US and Cancun, for example. MX to LAX/MIA and AM seasonally to JFK/ATL/MIA.



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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

[quote=Luv2fly,reply=14]This charter is because TMA/Trans Meridian stopped flying. Funjet needed to find another provider and it boiled down to who had planes available to run the charters[/quote 100% correct, Ryan airlines is taking over flying the CLE-LAS route that TMA had.


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User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5222 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2938 times:

Quoting XA744 (Reply 13):
On the other hand, what´s the market base in CLE that could sustain an scheduled operation by AM, MX or even Azteca and Aviacsa ?

I highly doubt it considering the small number of mexicans living at CLE! Years ago I live for 3 months at CLE and saw very few mexicans during my stay!


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User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 841 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2901 times:
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I do think there are a good amount of Mexicans here in CLE, as well as a variety of other Latin cultures.


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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2872 times:

I've also just heard ATA may be flying to CLE again soon (Funjet ops)


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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2776 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 17):
I highly doubt it considering the small number of mexicans living at CLE! Years ago I live for 3 months at CLE and saw very few mexicans during my stay!

You obviously didn't visit Ohio City or Clark/Fulton!



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8270 posts, RR: 23
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 2):
Will Aeromexico be the first foreign carrier at CLE?

First in a while, however we've seen service from Allegro, Air Canada, Condor, LOT etc. over the years.

Interesting that AeroMexico would fly a charter route, though.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2717 times:
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Quoting N766UA (Reply 21):
Interesting that AeroMexico would fly a charter route, though.

AM has done charters for years. Most likely you will see the rotation as CUN to CLE to CUN! So they will not have to base crews here or over night the aircraft. Not always the favorite for passengers as they feel they are losing time in the destination, by flying down late in the day and returning early.



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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2605 times:

Apparently ATA did start ops to LAS from CLE today.


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User currently offlineCa2ohHP From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 955 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2591 times:

Quoting CLE757 (Reply 23):
Apparently ATA did start ops to LAS from CLE today.

It is a codeshare flight with Southwest.


25 CLE757 : I dont think so, I think its a Funjet charter to LAS.
26 N766UA : I'd bet. They used to fly charters all the time with L10s, 72's, 75's, 738's, etc... they're probably back with funjet.
27 OptionsCLE : With the fall of TMA, ATA is probably taking over this route for Funjet as CLE757 and N766UA said. Are they flying it with a 757 like TMA did or a 73
28 Typhaerion : Word from the ops center is yes, it was a 757-200 on Tuesday. N518TZ I believe...
29 N766UA : Yep, old colors. Stood right next to it as I was working Cactus at A9.
30 Stirling : A lot has changed since JAT-Yugoslavian Airlines last flew intercontinentally to the US. For one, the concentration of the Serbian population has dis
31 MasseyBrown : I believe CLE has the largest Slovenian population in the US.
32 Kevinl1011 : Good question. I doubt there are enough Mexicans with enough money to vacation in CUN anyway. Most don't even have passport! Everybody I know (both o
33 Chrisjake : give Luchita's on W. 117th a try! awesome! chris
34 Anthsaun : One thing AM and MX have to do in order to grow and become stronger is to learn the in-style business rule "WIN TO WIN". This means that both airlines
35 Kevinl1011 : Dang! Mexican Food on the WEST SIDE? Ooops! were off subject.
36 Post contains images Fly727 : As a matter of fact, it is often cheaper to fly to Cancun and have a full-all inclusive week than any other domestic destination within the US. And w
37 Kevinl1011 : Assumption "Citizens". Sorry.
38 Post contains links and images BEG2IAH : Reading this someone could understand that Jat Airways does not exist. It sure does. View Large View MediumPhoto © Raimund Stehmann BEG2IAH
39 N405MX : As January 2007, all US citizens will need a passport to travel, if the don´t have it, they won´t be able to go back to the US
40 Mbm3 : Neuvo Acapulco in North Olmsted is darn good as well.
41 707guy : N766UA - see you finally got on with DGS....
42 Oakjam : Aeromexico to CLE sounds like a good charter flights to the Northern Ohio area. AM service is also quality something you wont find from a charter flig
43 Highflier92660 : Restaurant review from a "gringo"-- Nuevo Acapulco on Lorain Rd. is a great place with good food and atmosphere, fairly close to Hopkins, and makes th
44 Kevinl1011 : Especially since you don't live in Cleveland!
45 ASFlyer : Hard to take a suggestion for a Mexican restaurant from someone that considers a Chi-Chi's closing a bad thing.
46 Dan2002 : Off topic, I know, but I'll have to second that, I live literally blocks away and eat there often. Oh, I saw that Kalitta 741 land the other day, pre
47 N766UA : Yessir... been there for about 2 months now. You around there much anymore?
48 Highflier92660 : LOL! I know. And I'm based in Southern California (LAX) with about 10,000 Mexican restaurants. I'm no better with German restaurants either, and that
49 ChrisNH : I don't know how the Boston flight is doing, but is there a risk that they might discontinue BOS and use that aircraft to service CLE? Chris in NH
50 ASFlyer : I used to live in Michigan, in a small town, and we thought Chi-chi's was the end all. Oddly enough, I also was from southern California, so we knew
51 707guy : N766UA - left there in February - concentrating on the "other" job - but I'm still on the field. From what I've heard there aren't that many folks lef
52 Rampkontroler : Cayuga county is in New York...Cuyahoga county is where I live! LOL Anyway, although it's not Mexican, I hear la Tortilla Feliz on W.14th street in T
53 Cle757 : You want Mexican food in the Cleveland area?...try Cozumel's in Brunswick Ohio!..I've never had any better.
54 EddieDude : Nope. Unfortunately, AM does not service IAD/BWI or PHL. AM obtained recently authority to fly MEX-IAD but so far I have not heard of plans for them
55 Oakjam : Hi Eddiedude: Yes I do know that AM does not service the DC area, but what I classified as DC (I meant BWI) since the they do fall into the Wash, D.C.
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