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Airbus Stalls On Alliance A380 First Flight Target  
User currently offlineElvis777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 360 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9715 times:

Hello everyone,


http://www.flightinternational.co.uk...ance+A380+first+flight+target.html

Basically it says delivery may now be early 2007. This contrasts with the comments made in Der Spiegel by a highly placed Airbus source.

Keeping in mind, another A.net member's concerns from the last A380 thread please try not to be prejudicial when speculating.  Smile

Also, in my opinion if an aircraft does not meet its target weight (Range, relaibility, etc..) or it is delayed by more than 6 months (?) this does not mean that the Aircraft manufacturer will go under or that the plane will not fly. Think of the MD 11. But it is good to discuss these things.

Peace.

Sal


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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9693 times:

Delivery of the Alliance powered ones are not scheduled until then anyway surely?

The rolls versions are late.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineElvis777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9606 times:

Hi CHRISBA777ER,

I am not sure what you mean. The article states that the GP powerplant was delivered on Sep. 28. But you are correct in that the RR are a bit late. But this points to a bit of a disconnect between this article and the Der Spiegel interview.

Peace.

Elvis777  cheerful 



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User currently offlineAstuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 9838 posts, RR: 96
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9507 times:
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As FI article says, delay to Alliance engined A380 programme is consistent with the overall 6 month programme delay.

User currently offlineElvis777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9421 times:

Hi Astuteman!

You are of course right. That is what it says.

"First deliveries to launch customer Emirates are now provisionally expected in early 2007 –- sometime between February and April that year – rather than late 2006 as previously planned. The delay is in line with the six-month slip expected for the Rolls-Royce Trent 900-powered variant."

However, I thought that if the deliveries occurred in 2007 the delay would be greater than 6 months. I hope I did not make a mistake. Otherwise i will have to eat humble pie!

Peace

Elvis777



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User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9284 times:

Quoting Elvis777 (Reply 4):
Otherwise i will have to eat humble pie!

I don't think the EK (Engine Alliance powered variant) delivery has slipped any further since the delay was officially announced; its deliveries were always scheduled to be several months after SQ took delivery of its RR powered variant.

[Edited 2005-10-04 21:50:37]

User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12421 posts, RR: 100
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9190 times:
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Quoting Leelaw (Reply 5):
I don't think the EK (Engine Alliance powered variant) delivery has slipped any further since the delay was officially announced; its deliveries were always scheduled to be several months after SQ took delivery of its RR powered variant.

I concur. These "early birds" will help decide which engine rules the A380. Right now, its really looking to be a tie.

Off topic, but related: Does anyone know the status of the EK terminal being built to serve their flock of A380's?

Lightsaber



I've posted how many times?!?
User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7089 times:

Gee, where's NAV20 when I need him? lol

User currently offlineDynkrisolo From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1848 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7004 times:

Quoting Elvis777 (Reply 4):
However, I thought that if the deliveries occurred in 2007 the delay would be greater than 6 months. I hope I did not make a mistake. Otherwise i will have to eat humble pie!

No, there is no further delay. Originally, the first T900-powered 380 was to be delivered to SQ in the first half of 06. Now, it's slipped to the second half. The first EA-powered 380 was to be deliver in the second half of 06. Now, it's slipped to the first half of 07. So, this report is still consistent with the 6-month delay.


User currently offlineJush From Germany, joined Apr 2005, 1636 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6963 times:

woh as i'm not a native english speaker i completely got the word "stall" wrong here.
Jeez, now i got it.

Regards
jush



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User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6307 times:

think of the MD-11???  scratchchin 
What happened to MDD in 1995..?  Wow!  Wow!  Wow!


Yeah
USADreamliner


User currently offlineWiggidy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 113 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5557 times:

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 10):
think of the MD-11???
What happened to MDD in 1995..?

So Airbus is going to be absorbed into Boeing???

Couldnt resist  Big grin
-Wes


User currently offlineElvis777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5504 times:

Hello everyone

it does appear that I misunderstood the contents of the article . As such I will have a big serving of humble pie . If I knew how to withdraw this thread I would . I am fully acknowledging my mistake .

So as not to perpetuate this thread I will politely declined to answer or comment to the post by USA dreamliner . Not shirking the discussion just trying to correct a mistake by ending this thread . Next time I will discuss your question USAdreamliner

peace

Elvis777



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User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4329 times:

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 3):
As FI article says, delay to Alliance engined A380 programme is consistent with the overall 6 month programme delay.

Perhaps this was the true source of the delay, not seating designs or some other things?



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