FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5667 posts, RR: 17 Posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2903 times:
As I said in a nother thread, watch for several of these announcements in the next couple of weeks.
Allegiant announced new service from Rockford to Orlando this morning. Flights start Dec 15, just in time for end of the year vacations. http://www.allegiantair.com/pr/10_05_05.htm
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Sunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1930 posts, RR: 9 Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2865 times:
It nice to see an airline grow, and not cut back its service. Best of luck to ATCRick and the rest of the G4 Staff.
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8740 posts, RR: 52 Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2852 times:
That's good news as they are filling the voids left by Transmeridian's collapse. I am guessing Allegiant will fly something like LAS-RFD-SFB as the timings work out on this four per week flight.
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N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2852 times:
You know, having been in Rockford this weekend, I had no idea how far out from Chicago it was. Hell it is almost in Madison. It reminds me of Frankfurt/Hahn in that respect.
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RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8740 posts, RR: 52 Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2831 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 4): You know, having been in Rockford this weekend, I had no idea how far out from Chicago it was
It definitely isn't that close and should not be considered Chicago. As far as freeways go it is halfway between Chicago and Madison on 90/39. RFD is 72 miles from ORD on the west side. And considering that ORD is already decently far west from the city, RFD is way out there. The city of Rockford is what is supporting these flights, not Chicago traffic.
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N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2826 times:
Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 6): Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
You know, having been in Rockford this weekend, I had no idea how far out from Chicago it was
It definitely isn't that close and should not be considered Chicago. As far as freeways go it is halfway between Chicago and Madison on 90/39. RFD is 72 miles from ORD on the west side. And considering that ORD is already decently far west from the city, RFD is way out there. The city of Rockford is what is supporting these flights, not Chicago traffic.
I agree that most of the support for these flights is coming from Rockford, as well as eastern and central Wisconsin (including the aforementioned Madison, though MSN is also getting G4 service). Still, RFD is officially Chicago/Rockford Airport, which is quite misleading. It is nice to see a carrier starting up in smaller communities like G4 has been.
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RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8740 posts, RR: 52 Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2803 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 7): Still, RFD is officially Chicago/Rockford Airport, which is quite misleading.
Very true, but as long as flights keep coming, I don't care what they call the airport and how they market it. More air service is definitely a good thing and the Rockford airport authorities are doing everything that they can to get more airlines including offering monetary incentives to passengers that fly out of RFD on select flights (mostly the NW flights to DTW).
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Loisencroach From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 373 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2758 times:
I think Air Tran is going to move into Rockford within the year.
MFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2707 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10): MFE is a significantly smaller market. MFE is very fortunate to have SFB service. I'm shocked they even added it.
Well, IMO, thats what G4 does, serve smaller markets, and I don't think it is very fortunate, in that case, every city or town that is served by G4 is fortunate.
What I want to know is, why does MFE get two flights per week, when McAllen is probably much bigger than the routes G4 serves from SFB?
and I'm not trying to argue what township or city is bigger, I just want to know the demand. Is the demand not sufficent in MFE to have 4 flights per week?
MFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2686 times:
Quoting ATCRick (Reply 12): I have a feeling we'll make it work. Time will tell I guess
From a very wise man, well said, and I truly respect you for that ATCRick.
I'm pretty sure time will tell, I mean, when G4 started MFE-LAS, they only started with 2 flights per week. Then the inagurating flight or first flight had not taken place yet, and suddenly they upgraded to 4 flights. Again, it's probably demand.
B757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1236 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2680 times:
I don't know about airtran. RFD really doesn't want Hooters to have competition on the ATL runs but, I have heard that UAL will do CRJ's to DEN from RFD.
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ATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 14 Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2660 times:
Quoting MFEFlyer (Reply 13): From a very wise man, well said, and I truly respect you for that ATCRick.
Thats a very nice thing for you to say. Thank you. And yes, I think advanced bookings are a big factor in our plan. Plus, and I'm not high enough in the food chain to really know, but maybe the response to our announced RFD-LAS service has given us reason to try RFD-SFB service. Go Allegiant!!
FlyPeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 377 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2492 times:
Quoting B757capt (Reply 14): ...I have heard that UAL will do CRJ's to DEN from RFD.
IIRC, prior to Sept. 11, 2001, then-UAL CEO James Goodwin visited Rockford and apparently discussed CRJ service to both DEN and IAD. Of course, 9-11 brought an end to such discussions.
It would be great to see UAX do RFD-DEN, but Hooters Air already offers a few flights per week on that route.
Frontier [Jet Express] might be more likely to start RFD-DEN than UA, however.
Yea well I sat in on meetings in RFD with Frontier the airport and ,us Hooters. Frontier was PISSED and I meen PISSED that we were starting RFD_DEN especially after RFD contacted them before us and then we started it. To be totally honest with you it doesn't matter who operates the route anybody that does it at least 3x a day it would kill anyone who competes with less.
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RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8740 posts, RR: 52 Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2430 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 21): Quoting Loisencroach (Reply 9):
I think Air Tran is going to move into Rockford within the year.
For? Hooters really has that market covered
Hooters isn't even daily on that route. One thing missing from RFD is connectivity. Sure you can get to LAS, DEN and ATL on Hooters, but you have to switch an airline to make a connection, which is difficult and expensive. The only connectivity out of RFD is NW through DTW and there seems to be more demand than just that through DTW. NW is extremely expensive. Airtran would be a nice addition. It would offer at least daily service to ATL and all of those connection opportunities. Though RFD might take a little bit away from their service to BMI (Bloomington Illinois), but probably that isn't enough to stop them if they wanted to start.
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KcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3629 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2417 times:
Quoting ATCRick (Reply 22): Quoting N908AW (Reply 19):
Hey I'll fly you guys twice a year...under one condition
Ok,
whats the condition?
Guess, haha.
Hows everyone doing? Great to see G4 Gettin'er done
25 N1120A: Yeah, I suppose there are some decent Florida and South connections, plus Northeast and Mid-Atlantics for those who don't mind back tracking. Then ag
26 ATCRick: Kcrwflyer, Good to hear from you. I hope all is well from up there on that foggy hill.
27 KcrwFlyer: The hill is quite foggy; down to .13 of a mile visibility two days ago Thats upslope fog for ya. Rick, you guys are expanding rapidly, how many aircr
28 LUVRSW: Rickster....we gonna see MSN-SFB, or GRB-SFB?
29 CIDflyer: MSN-SFB is being or has been discontinued. Maybe we might see GRB-SFB though....
30 Iowaman: I would think GRB would be a real long shot if MSN didn't work.
31 LUVRSW: Maybe they should think about CWA. It's in the middle of the state, right in the middle of North-South, East-West Interstates. 1 1/2 hr from GRB, ATW.
32 ATCRick: Well fellas, I guess MSN didn't work. GRB on the other hand is probably too early to tell. We'll see. As far as aircraft goes, we still have the 5 Jet
33 Loisencroach: Allright. At this point, I would no longer be impressed if Allegiant started service between Nome and Key West. The announcement I want to hear is tha
34 ATCRick: ummmm...Loisencroach, let me be the first to welcome you to the Allegiant thread fan club. I am pleased to introduce FATFlyer, CIDflyer, Kcrwflyer, N
35 FlyPeoria: [quote=B757capt,reply=20]Frontier was P----- and I mean P----- that we were starting RFD-DEN especially after RFD contacted them before us and then we
36 Loisencroach: Awww that was baaaaaaaaaad. This whole Allegiant thing reminds me of Southwest in the late '80's. I'm not going to get into the details of how it doe
37 FATFlyer: Hey there Rick. What's the latest on those? Any delivery dates? If I remember right Jeb94 said a couple needed some work, was it FOD damage on one?
39 ATCRick: FATFlyer we need to talk..not on a public forum though
40 FATFlyer: Rick check your email I'll be on for a little longer tonite.
41 N1120A: They fly Ted flights to MDW, so why not do something to RFD?
42 Ouboy79: Rick... You may want to pass on, the Toledo Port posts on USAFlying.com and had a lot of positive things to say about their launch in Toledo. I can em
43 Cubsrule: Actually, to a lot of points in the eastern US, RFD-DTW-XXX is cheaper than originating in ORD or MKE.
44 Stirling: Which one? Cold or Colder? (New York or Minnesota and vice versa) Or are you talking about Jack Benny's driver?
45 FlyPeoria: UA is probably trying to compete with the LCC's that fly into MDW. It seems that RFD's strategy is to draw passengers from Chicago's NW suburbs (amon
46 N908AW: COLDER! Arggh... 40 degrees, and I had to do a 5k... not fun.
47 Atcrick: Ouboy, Yes please provide the link for me. And thanks.
48 Uadc8contrail: flypeoria, i wouldnt be surprised if steenland tried to start rfd-mco service, he has pulled off a really stupid/money losing move by starting servic
49 FlyPeoria: I'm not sure if NW sees too much at stake at RFD. Of course, if the idea is to try to put G4 out of business then... DPJ
50 Georgiabill: Not to change the subject. However how are the bookings from Portsmouth. I am looking forward to flying on Allegiant. Just curious. I've heard Pan Am
51 Smcmac32msn: Madison is losing all G4 service by the end of the month of October. All services will be moved to RFD because RFD has lower landing rates than MSN.
52 F27XXX: Bravo to Allegiant .. . it's absolutely wonderful to see a LCC take a chance on smaller under (or un)-served cities as Allegiant does. They're smart t
53 Loisencroach: I wonder if Allegiant could pull off a Wilmington, DE (ILG) service to SFB. They could try it, anyway.
54 F27XXX: If anyone can, it's them! Theres enough of a population base around ILG and I remember when UA even flew 72S and 73S to ORD from there - - so a route
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