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Around The World In...30 Days.  
User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2544 posts, RR: 28
Posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4280 times:

Ok, so I am graduating this spring, in May  Smile from College. As a present to myself, I am thinking of taking an around the world trip. My questions are as follows:

-Has anyone been around the world in 30 days or less?
-Is it impossible to enjoy all the destinations with all the jet-lag etc?
-Approx. how many destinations is the maximum you would try to go to in 30 days?


Here are my routing Ideas: (Originating and Ending at IAD/WAS)

IAD-HKG-BKK-SIN-DXB-LHR-IAD
IAD-CDG-BKK-SIN-NRT or SYD-IAD
IAD-EZE-FCO-SIN-BKK-?-IAD
IAD-CPT-DXB-SIN-BKK-HKG-IAD

Really I've traveled all over Europe, so I am really looking to go to other places. (Sorry, I DO LOVE Europe though). Singapore an Bangkok are musts  Smile. I would go to South Africa as well, but it, like Buenos Aires, is very far out of the way from Asia... anyhoo.... any of your guys' experiences/ advice would be lovely.

-AA777

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User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1844 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4232 times:

I think an around the world trip should include destinations that a typical RTW ticket traveler would not experience. Major cities get boring after a while, if you must fly into one at least take the time to trave far away from them. Spend time outside cities if you really want to "see the world" is basically what i'm trying to say :] I'm sure in the end you'd find the trip much more rewarding and worth the money.

[Edited 2005-10-05 17:59:26]


Someday the sun will shine down on me in some faraway place - Mahalia Jackson
User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8579 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4221 times:
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Hi AA777

Congratulations on your upcoming graduation. As a former TA , I used to ask my pax to be sure that they knew what they were letting themselves in for with itineraries like this ( usually not a problem in New Zealand / Australia where I worked because pretty much everyone there flies longhaul itineraries) I assume that you are travelling in economy class ( apologies if that is an unfair assumption)

I am also assuming from your post that the only "longhaul" travel you have done has been transatlantic where you are dealing with only 7-8 hour flights and time zone changes of only a few hours .

If you only have thirty days dont forget that you will be losing cumulatively at least 3 days in all the flying - it also usually takes most people a couple of days to recover from a true longhaul flight ( having said that I had a client who flew three times are year AKL-LAX-LHR-SIN-AKL in economy for 10 day trips and always came back seeming as fresh as if he had had a months vacation - but he was a very unusual person ) so I would suggest you limit yourself to 2 or 3 stopovers if you want to do them properly .

In my experience the biggest "mistakes" people on an itinerary such as this are as follows

* going straight to sleep after an early morning arrival somewhere - I cannot emphasise enough how important it is to keep going until local night time if you want to get over the jet lag as quickly as possible

* overdoing the booze ( particularly if it is free ) drink plenty of non-alcoholic drinks in flight

* deciding that since it is a "once-in-a-lifetime" trip that they have to try
to see everything - they usually end up running themselves into the ground

It is hard to advise you where to go because obviously I am not you , I don't know your interests other than what you have listed in your profile - I think that you are doing the right thing by starting to plan your trip now - take some time and jot down a few notes of what you think will be the highlights of your trip - put it away for a couple of weeks then take it out and look at it again to see if those still seem to be the most important things for you - this has often helped my clients work out what the "must do" things are so that they can focus on them .


I also have to say that if you are not good at sleeping on planes ( I am terrible ) then try to get airlines with AVOD PTVs ( I just know that I am going to get flamed by people who say that they dont care about IFE )


Good luck with your planning - I look forward to reading an interesting trip report next year

PS I see from your profile that you are 16-20 - I guess therefore like most guys your age you think that you are indestructable - sorry to tell you - but you are not - so don't forget travel insurance

 Smile



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User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4188 times:

If you're going to Bangkok, you should treat yourself to a few days in Phuket. The flights are relatively cheap, and you should get a "heavy" (Mostly 777's and A300's i think - the odd B744 and MD11 also) if you fly Thai, which is quite nice for a relatively short flight. Also the approach is relatively SXM style, and if you want to spot aircraft you can just lie on the beach and they fly in, just like SXM (though not AS low) but busier. Also Phuket is considered one of the best paradise places in the world, although it was hit by the tsunami in December 2004, so i'm not sure what its like now. Also New Zealand is supposed to be very nice, as is Australia. It really depends what "your kind of scene" is.

User currently offlineTPAnx From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4187 times:

Want to do this, too, when I retire. Smile
Found a lot of interesting sites just by doing a Google search on
"around the world travel"
Send postcards!
TPAnx



I read the news today..oh boy
User currently offlineGlasgow From Australia, joined Sep 2005, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4143 times:

You cant miss out Bonnie Scotland!!!!

OK maybe you can, but SYD should defo be done. It's cracking.

Enjoy your trip!


User currently offlineTundra767 From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2005, 430 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4134 times:

I've done it in 4 days. LAX-CDG-ICN-KIX-SEA-LAX The longest it took me was 7 days LAX-LHR-DXB-BKK-HKG-NRT-SJC-LAX. I have flown around 5 times. And did it twice in January.

User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5724 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4092 times:

Quoting AA777 (Thread starter):
Has anyone been around the world in 30 days or less?

No, I have not and IMHO it's just a waste of time and money if you do it unless you have to. Spending time just gentting to/from airport and being stuck in a pressurized tupe for endless hours is a best way to ruin your holidays and start to hate flying.
Around the world in 6-12 months... well, that's a completely different story.

Quoting AA777 (Thread starter):
Is it impossible to enjoy all the destinations with all the jet-lag etc?

I think that you'd only experience a severe jet lag and be sick of airports after a while.

Quoting AA777 (Thread starter):
Approx. how many destinations is the maximum you would try to go to in 30 days?

ONE. Pick one country and try to get out of it something more than a superficial experience of the capital city and notorious tourist destinations EVERYONE goes to.
With countries the size of India or Brazil it will be still impossible.

[Edited 2005-10-05 18:28:39]

User currently offlineTonyB From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4030 times:

Congratulations from me as well.

The RTW routes I've done have each taken around 15-18 days in total, allowing for a few days sightseeing/chilling out at various places.

1. LHR-SIN-Perth-SYD-Nadi-LAX-LHR (Qantas/Air Pacific/BA). This included stopovers of 2/3 days in Perth/Sydney and Fiji and 1 night each in Singapore and LA.

2. LHR-SIN-HKG-MEL-AKL-Papeete-LAX-LHR (Singapore/Air New Zealand) - 2/3 nights in Hong Kong/Melbourne/Auckland and Tahiti and 1 night in Singapore and LA.

3. LHR-LAX-Rarotonga-AKL-SYD-DXB-LHR (Air New Zealand/Emirates) - 3 nights in Rarotonga and Sydney, 2 nights in Auckland and Dubai. Only changed aircraft at LAX on the way from London to the Cook Islands.


User currently offlineA999 From Norway, joined Mar 2004, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3860 times:

Have done it once way back in 1980.
PanAm was the airline of choice then as they had an offer which said: RTW in 80 days(or less) after the Phileas Fogg story. Y class was 998 pounds LHR-LHR while P(Premium First with sleeper seats) was 1998 I think. They also offered Standby First which we opted for(you could always downgrade if it was full, but we made it all around on P/F). We spent 21 days with 2 days stopover in HKG,one week in Japan (in to Tokyo and out of Osaka) with surface transport by Shinkansen (the express bullet train-also first class), 9 lovely days in HNL,and one day stopovers in LAX,MSY and MCO before returning via JFK.
I could do it again anytime so if anybody out there having a spare ticket, just let me know!
Btw have a real nice trip!


User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2544 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3827 times:

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 2):
PS I see from your profile that you are 16-20 - I guess therefore like most guys your age you think that you are indestructable - sorry to tell you - but you are not - so don't forget travel insurance

Thanks for the advice! ... lol, I will actually be moving into the 21-25 category this weekend.

Someone mentioned going to ONE place. We'll whenever I travel, thats what I tend to do....the problem is that most places tend to get boring after a while; especially if you are travelling as a tourist. I want to go to several places, and be very busy. I know BKK is a must see, and SIN, I want to go to just because I've heard nothing but good things about it. I was also thinking about DEL / BOM... The other option instead of the typical "around the world" trip would just be to fly to one point in Asia, (say, SIN) and do the rest of my flying from there....(though it would be soo cool to be able to say, "Yeah, I've flown all the away around the world") hahaha....

Anyway, I am going to start doing lots of research on SE Asia, checking out which places appeal to me the most.... I do want to check out Phuket, but who knows what state its in after the Tsunami. I imagine though that Thailand considers it a very important area, and they probably have allocated a lot of resources to getting it fixed up...

-AA777


User currently offlineTrolley Dolley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3810 times:

Hi there. I regularly go around the world in less than 30 days as mum lives in the UK and I live in New Zealand. It's tough on the body. While you can get yourself sort of on to local time quite quickly, it does take the body a day or so to catch up for each time zone you cross. Expect at least 2 or 3 days to be written off when all you want to do is sleep or blob out by the pool. In 30 days, you'll also have about 4-5 days of travel, which means you only really have about 20 or so days to enjoy yourself at a destination.

My advice- fly westward. It always seemes easier to adjust to flights that way than flying towards the east. ie go to Asia first, rather than Europe.

I'd think about what you'd like to do and see. Are you the sort of traveller who likes to breeze in and breeze out, or do you like to get a lot more into a destination and explore? You could easily spend 30 days in South Africa alone. Are you just interested in cities, or what about visiting the country side in places like Thailand- beautiful islands etc?

My recommendation is that I'd limit the stops to 3 places (4 max if one is a city stop like SIN or DXB which can be given justice if you go hard for a couple of days.) I'd make sure I had at least 10 days in one place so that the body can just rest and catch up and relieve you of the stress of jet-lag inducing travel.

I'd also consider asing if this is going to be a "once in a life time" trip or not. I'm happy to go blasting around the world in a short time, as I use the sopovers as chances to scope out destinations for future, longer, holidays. I would not recommend this style of travel to anyone who isn't as lucky as me.

Congrats too! Bruce


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3704 times:

I copy my reply from another (very short thread):
Star Alliance has a planning tool for RTW-trips downloadable from their website www.staralliance.com - Can´t say if such a tool is also available from One World.

Some more specialists for RTW-trips who might be helpful in planning:
www.airbrokers.com
www.airtreks.com


Apart from this: What I´ve learned from other A.netter is the saying: "West is best, East is least" which has become also my opinion (not experience) for RTW´s. This is, unless you travel in C-Class Big grin
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlinePr1268 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3671 times:

Slightly off-topic: What's the round-the-world itenerary that uses commercial airline routes with the fewest stops? Changing airlines is allowed.

I can think of:

LAX-SIN-LHR-LAX Three legs only.

JFK-NRT-PER-JNB-JFK this one even crosses the equator (Not too sure if NRT-PER is n/s, or whether SA still services PER-JNB).

PPT-SCL-GRU-JNB-PER-SYD-PPT Entirely in the Southern Hemisphere (SA's Website mentions GRU-JNB n/s).



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3650 times:

Quoting Pr1268 (Reply 13):
LAX-SIN-LHR-LAX Three legs only.

Only 2 stops may violate fare rules set for RTW-tariff´s, but will count as a RTW in personal logs.  Smile

Personally I think in order to make a RTW a "valid RTW", one not only should have to cross all meridians but also has to touch both hemispheres. This is in contrast to a fictive route from Greenland to Longyearbyen (Spitsbergen, Norway) to Peninsula "Kola" in Russia and further around the north pole to Greenland.
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3695 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3632 times:

Don't skip Australia if you haven't been there. It also makes a pretty good jumping off point for just about anywhere in Asia.


PHX based
User currently offlineRAMPRAT980 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 600 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3611 times:

Good luck to you on your adventure. One day I hope to do exactly that with one or all of my children. I would probably add a stop in Dubai or somewhere in the middle east. Start from EWR. Definately more stops since I would be flying non-rev. Any suggestions ?


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User currently offlineEurofleetLHR From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3610 times:

Star Alliance RTW deal is excellent - I've done 2 trips so far.

First itinerary (Mar 2002)

Stockholm-London-Toronto-Chicago-Denver-Los Angeles-Fiji-Auckland-Brisbane-Sydney-Hong Kong-Bangkok-Singapore-Kathmandu-Vienna -Stockholm.

Sadly, since the demise of Ansett, that routing is no longer possible.

Second itinerary (Mar 2004)

Stockholm-Munich-Newark-Toronto-Vancouver-Los Angeles-Singapore-Bangkok-Hong Kong-Tokyo-Seoul-Beijing-Vienna-Paris-Amsterdam-Stockholm

Both trips were done in under 4 weeks; I find that flying westbound helped with the jetlag !

I chose the Business Class option, and the lowest mileage limit (29,000 miles) - which meant it was impossible to visit Australia, South America and South Africa in one itinerary.

The Star Alliance RTW website is excellent in calculating mileage.


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3583 times:

Quoting EurofleetLHR (Reply 17):
I chose the Business Class option, and the lowest mileage limit (29,000 miles) - which meant it was impossible to visit Australia, South America and South Africa in one itinerary.

As a side effect such an itinerary in C alone should be sufficient to qualify for the respective FF-status on *A.
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2013 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3575 times:

I'm about to quite my job and go on a 6 month RTW trip (using oneworld, as their locations fitted better my itinerary)

My only advice, would be to travel on land as well, as otherwise all you'll end up seeing will be major cities and their airports. RTW tickets generally allow this. For example, you can take the train from singapore to bangkok, and stop off in KL on the way. A train across India would be FAR more memorable than the equivalent flight, as you get to see the country and the people.



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User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1644 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3564 times:

Quoting AA777 (Reply 10):
I know BKK is a must see, and SIN, I want to go to just because I've heard nothing but good things about it. I was also thinking about DEL / BOM

If 30 days is your vacation period, suggest you cover only the SE Asian region. Agree BKK is a must, was there a fortnight ago, amazing place great night life... Nov/Dec is a great time to visit DEL (and cover neighboring Jaipu/Agra) although fog tends to be a problem around late december.

Also see if you can squeeze in Sri Lanka for a couple of days... it is lovely and yes if New Years is around try spending it in Goa...

Wish I get to do such a thing some day...

PS: Congrats for your grad...


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3566 times:

I did around the world in 10 days. I'm doing the same this coming summer:

RTW:
AA,CX,BA 777,773, A330, 742 MD80
DFW-KIX
KIX-HKG
HKG-BKK
BKK-BOM
BOM-LHR
LHR-ORD
ORD-DFW

RWT 2 appears to be:
AA,EK,Turkish,CX
DFW-ORD
ORD-LHR
LHR-IST
IST-DXB
DXB-HKG
HKG-NRT
NRT-DFW



Go big or go home
User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3548 times:

I've done 3 RTWs, now in the middle of the 4th one.

YRWSTAR1

Helsinki-Stockholm-Bangkok-Singapore-Auckland-Sydney-San Francisco-Seattle-Vancouver-Victoria-Vancouver-Edmonton-Toronto-Kingston-Toronto-Montreal-Frankfurt-Hamburg-Copenhagen-Helsinki

YRWSTAR1

Helsinki-Stockholm-Copenhagen-Munich-Hong Kong-Sydney-Brisbane-Sydney-Auckland-Wellighton-Auckland-Honolulu-Los Angeles-Las Vegas-Chicago-Cleveland-Toronto-Kingston-Toronto-Montreal-Quebec-Montreal-Halifax-Charlottetown-Halifax-London-Copenhagen-Helsinki

Mixed tickets

Helsinki-Frankfurt-Vancouver-Honolulu-Sydney-Brisbane-Sydney-Auckland-Wellington-Auckland-Sydney-Bangkok-Frankfurt-Helsinki

CX OW160C - underway

Helsinki-London-Toronto-Anchorage-Hong Kong-Manila-Hong Kong-Bangkok-London-Helsinki

The first three were done in about 2 weeks with no problems.

As a side note, instead of buying an expensive Star Y RTW in the US, one should burn some miles, fly to BKK or CMB and get business class for the same amount of money.



Air Asia Super Elite, Cebu Pacific Titanium
User currently offlineUAL747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3528 times:

I did a LAX-MSP-AMS-HKG-KUL-SIN-LAX once. But since you said you've already seen lot's of Europe why not do an Asia exploration? IAD-LAX-SEL-TPE-HKG-BKK-KUL (or take train from BKK to SIN stopping in Penang to visit the island of Langkawi, one of my favorite places in the world)-SIN-BALI-PER-SYD-AKL-PPT-LAX-IAD.

Whatever you do you'll love it.

UAL747-600


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