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Airbus: 10 Undisclosed Orders For A350: Who?  
User currently offlineBrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1288 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7778 times:

I was reading the info on the A350 on Airbus' site and they say they have 140 commitments or which 10 from an undisclosed customer. Any idea? TAP?


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User currently offlineTAP340 From Portugal, joined Oct 2004, 102 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7741 times:

Quoting BrightCedars (Thread starter):

TAP is ordering 11, although there could have been an adjustment.


User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7739 times:

Quoting BrightCedars (Thread starter):
I was reading the info on the A350 on Airbus' site and they say they have 140 commitments or which 10 from an undisclosed customer. Any idea? TAP?

I would like to believe that. Although I believe that this order will go to Air Lingus. The Portuguese government is still evaluating all options.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineTAP340 From Portugal, joined Oct 2004, 102 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7719 times:

Quoting WINGS (Reply 2):

Not again...... It's because of the government and alleged bribery that TAP got the 340's in the first place.


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12491 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7665 times:
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I though TAP's initial order would be for A330s?

How about IB?



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User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7608 times:

Quoting TAP340 (Reply 3):
Not again...... It's because of the government and alleged bribery that TAP got the 340's in the first place.

No TAP340, Tap got those 4x A340-300 so that they could start services to the Far East (MACAU). This route proved to be unprofitable and so they cancelled it. The 4x A340 have actually proven to be efficient in Taps fleet, especially for the South African route and South America.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4144 posts, RR: 90
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7487 times:
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Mr Leahy just stated he hopes to announce it in the next 2 weeks. He said the airline has Board approval and also Government approval. Interesting.

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User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7387 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 6):
Mr Leahy just stated he hopes to announce it in the next 2 weeks. He said the airline has Board approval and also Government approval. Interesting.

In that case I would lean towards an order from Tap Portugal.

Does anyone know if Iberia is still state owned?

What other airlines would fit into this category?

Alitalia- nearly bankrupt
Olimpic- nearly bankrupt
Thai Airways- ?

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7383 times:

Government approval. What Airlines that may order the A350 need governement approval? A Chinese carrier, Thai, Aeroflot?


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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4144 posts, RR: 90
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7350 times:
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Quoting WINGS (Reply 7):
In that case I would lean towards an order from Tap Portugal.

I think that could be the case. He spoke on their press conference which was live via their site. I was very surprised when he said "they've got Government approval"

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineTAP1972 From Portugal, joined Dec 2003, 396 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7324 times:

Quoting Manni (Reply 8):
Government approval. What Airlines that may order the A350 need governement approval?

When the government is the shareholder, it's normal to get its approval.


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7309 times:

Qantas or BA or LH or.....

*wishing n hoping*

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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7320 times:

Yes, I'm aware of that. That'w why I am asking, what (wich would have been more clearer) airlines need governement approval, meaning wich airlines are (partially) owned by their respective governement.
Nevertheless, thanks.  Wink

Is AY owned (partially) by the governement?



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User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7281 times:

Does anyone know if the following carriers can be excluded from the list?

Tap Portugal- very possible
Air Lingus- Very possible
Thai- Very possible
Olimpic- nearly bankrupt
Alitalia- Nearly bankrupt
Finnair- very possible
Aeroflot- possible
Mexicana - possible
Saudi Arabian Airlines- ?
Gulf Air-?


Anyone else have any idea?

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineTAP1972 From Portugal, joined Dec 2003, 396 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7243 times:

Well TAP is one of them.....

User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7219 times:

Quoting TAP1972 (Reply 14):
Well TAP is one of them....

Hi TAP1972, you must have read my post wrong. I wrote what carriers can be EXCLUDED from the list.

Am sure that Tap would be a prime candidate.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12431 posts, RR: 37
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7132 times:

AER (note spelling!) Lingus has been mentioned on Irish bulletin boards as a possibility, but over the past few months, amid the considerable number of rumours about new long haul aircraft, there has been one consistent factor: no interest in the A350 evident whatsoever.

Of course, one can't discount the fact that rumours have been "placed" as a means of putting pressure on Airbus to provide a better deal, BUT I do get the very distinct impression that Boeing is favoured. It would surprise me (and not pleasantly!) if it were EI, but I guess we'll see.

I'm hoping it's TAP!


User currently offlineTAP1972 From Portugal, joined Dec 2003, 396 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7115 times:

Quoting WINGS (Reply 15):
Hi TAP1972, you must have read my post wrong

Hi wings. How are you doing? I was replying to Manni. Sorry for the confusion

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User currently offlineTAP1972 From Portugal, joined Dec 2003, 396 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7098 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 16):
BUT I do get the very distinct impression that Boeing is favoured.

Why do you say that? EI has been replacing the B737's with A320/321


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7067 times:

I would exclude Olympic, Alitalia and Saudi Arabian. How about SK, MH, PR, CI, UL and BG?


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User currently offlineMEA From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6991 times:

Current A350 customers:

Air Europa 10
ALAFCO 12
CIT 5
GECAS 10
Kingfisher Airlines 5
Qatar Airways 60
TAM 8
US Airways 20

Unidentified:

Gulf Air
Emirates
Singapore Airlines
Sri Lankan
Aer Lingus
Royal Brunei
Malaysian
Thai
Indian Airlines
Etihad Airways
British Airways
Lufthansa
Air France/KLM
Aeroflot


User currently offlineWidebody From Ireland, joined Aug 2000, 1152 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6947 times:

Kaitak,

On a side note, which Irish bulletin boards are still open?


User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6785 times:

Im sure its not a chinese carrier.

According to a recent FLIGHT magazine article China will not order any A350's in the near term, or anything that is not deliverable prior to the Olympics.

Drew



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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6770 times:

wouldnt suprise me if its AF for a A340-300 Replacement, wich they want to dispose from the fleet in about 5 years...

User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8307 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6622 times:

My guess for the stronger contenders would be TP, QF, SQ, in that order.

25 Post contains images Scbriml : Well the last two would certainly create some news!
26 NorCal : If you added another 0 to it I would say EK
27 WINGS : Well PanAm clearly stated in his reply that the carrier involved still required both board approval and government approval. Is SQ and QF in anyway s
28 Post contains images Jacobin777 : care to share what you are smokin?
29 Post contains images Airbazar : SQ yes, QF I don't know. But I'm taking the comment about government approval very lightly
30 ClassicLover : Won't be QF... they don't need government approval as they are not a government owned airline. Trent.
31 Kaitak : Hi Wings, The Irish bulletin boards now open are : Dublin Airport forum, Flying in Ireland and Grounded Ireland. The Dublin Airport forum is the most
32 Post contains links EI321 : Theres a board for shannon airport aswell, I forget the address. Heres another active forum: http://www.ifsd.ie/Forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=40 If it has
33 PlaneDane : How about UA? They're soon to come out of bankruptcy and may have received a super deal from Airbus. Just a thought...
34 Hjulicher : I think SU is very possible. on the press release, airbus actually noted that many of the parts would come from countries such as russia. Since this a
35 Post contains images Killjoy : If you're trying to guess the airline based on the government-thing, remember that a publicly traded company can't favor one shareholder, even if it i
36 Korg747 : Air india? or could it be LOT? It could also be my native country, Egypt for MSR.[Edited 2005-10-07 20:58:18]
37 KL808 : I wouldn't think it be one of those, but if it is AI then it is a very BIG surprise. LOT just purchased B787's Drew
38 Planesailing : What about a Chinese option? China Airlines has A330's, and China is playing a big part in the deisgn process.[Edited 2005-10-07 21:14:39]
39 Jacobin777 : Russia is doing lots of work for the 787 also, so I think its a bit of a "draw" on that end!
40 FCKC : Strong rumors say it could possibly be Aer Lingus. Seems too early for China.Chinese airlines seem not to be ready yet to order planes to be delivered
41 ThereAndBack : Maybe Turkish...to replace the A310. It's just a guess.
42 Widebody : Gura mile maith agat Kaitak, EI, will take a look... Rgds, WB.
43 Boeingrulz : What are the routes that Aer Lingus are planning for A350? Is it being discussed as a direct replacement for A330's on Trans Atlantic ops or for anoth
44 Kappel : IIRC I read in the latest AirlinerWorld issue that Gulf Air wanted to simplify it's long-haul fleet to one (new) type. So it may be a possibility tha
45 WhiteHatter : As GECAS is already in there with ALAFCO, they could be for ILFC. They seem to be the one missing from the usual suspects list.
46 Trex8 : China Airlines CI is a Taiwanese carrier and technically they are still in a civil war with the communist on the Chinese mainland, though you may be
47 Post contains images N754PR : Trex8, Great points you make there.. I'll not comment further As for the 787 China is getting 52 787's from July 2008, are they not early aircraft on
48 Trex8 : well the games are in August and somehow I don't see these airlines getting every one of those early delivery slots!!
49 Sabenapilot : Strange nobody came up with: ROYAL JORDANIAN Some FACTS: -) They were looking for exactly 10 (!) new planes and have turned exclusively to Airbus last
50 Toulouse : Totally agree... I'm really hoping for an EI 350 order. I have heard rumours both back in Dublin and here in Toulouse that an EI order is expected...
51 Post contains images Scbriml : EI are going to build their own planes now?
52 Backfire : Nobody came up with it because the RJ deal with Boeing was for narrowbodies - namely ten 737s - and this was then dropped in favour of A320/321s.
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